Originally Posted by Photolysis
Well guess what? The whole of modern physics is against you when you state that time does not exist.
If you want to disprove all of modern physics, you're going to have to do more than write a few badly worded statements with little substance.
I am curious as to where the whole modern physics classifies the idea of time as being real. Do you have a source for this? We have provided what I feel to be compelling arguments against time being real, you are the one posting things with little substance.
Originally Posted by Photolysis
I notice how you avoided giving any scientific proof whatsoever. Don't be shy. If you know the answer on the matter as you claim, you will go down as one of the greatest minds in physics.
Whoever thought of imaginary numbers was a genius. The proof that imaginary numbers are not real does not disprove anything in the field of math. It is simply acknowledging a fact. Similarly proving that time is imaginary does not disprove any of modern physics. And I'm sure we're not the first to conclude that time is not real. And we're not the ones coming up with time itself, just showing how it is not real, so sadly I doubt we'll go down as one of the greatest minds in physics, as it is really not that tricky of a concept.
Originally Posted by Photolysis
You begin with putting a very spiritual slant on a scientific statement (which is wrong as energy exists in various stable states and is not always changing).
The saying, "change is constant" applies to everything. Energy does exist in various stable states, but at the molecular level, there is always energy exchange, in every case. The changes may be large and fast, or they could be minute and unnoticeable, but they are always taking place. Keep in mind that heat and light are forms of energy.
Originally Posted by Photolysis
Watch what happenes when I rewrite your first phrase: [Energy is constantly changing from one form to another (false)]. Therefore through this we could relatively say nothing is free, or rather, all is free [complete non sequitur]. Yet if we remain unattached to what is relative, we realize the universal - that which never changes, which is always free, and is Reality itself [more inane rambling].
Listen to my interpretation of this same phrase: [Energy is constantly changing from one form to another (very true, I have had thermodynamics and a lot of physics classes so far)]. Therefor through this we could say that since all money is, is another form of energy, and energy is always changing form, money will inevitable change form into some other kind of energy. In this way, energy is always transforming from one form to another. Even if you just put the money in the bank. That is changing it from kinetic energy (energy in motion) to potential energy (the ability to do work / use energy).
You trade money for work, i.e. you pay people for them to perform certain services. So money = power, power = work / time, Work = force * distance, and force is physical energy, so money = energy * distance / time. Money is a form of energy. Energy is always in change. You can use money to get people to do work for you, but in that case, you are not doing the work, you are just changing energy from the form of money, into power. People trade work and time for money, work is a form of energy, time measures how long the work took place. So if you're trading energy for something, it makes sense that you're getting energy back for it. As you can use money to trade for more energy, it is a form of energy in itself. Money is just one of the many ways to exchange energy, which is always changing forms. So since everything is an exchange of energy, in the form of work, nothing is free from work. However, if you choose not to pay for the work, that work is free. Therefor, everything costs work, you can do the work yourself for free, some of the best things in life aren't exempt from costing work. But if you do the work yourself to experience those things, you will not have to spend any money, making those things free.
Yet if we remain unattached to what is relative, we realize the universal - that which never changes, which is always free, and is reality itself.
The best things in life are experiences themselves, which are by nature, free. The means by which you acquire these experiences never have to cost money. But because we live in a society, you sometimes need money to get to places where you can experience the best things. However, that money was spent on the journey, not the experience. So journeys are not free, but the best things in life are. It doesn't cost a dime to use your senses. As the universe is always there, capable of being perceived and interacted with, being responsible for every one of our experiences, always at zero cost to the perceiver. The best things in life are indeed free.
But the best things in life are experiencing the energy, not the energy itself (the electronic signals interpreted by our brains are responsible for all of our pleasures and our pains and our experiences... also electronic signals are energy). Electronic signals (energy) by themselves are cool, but not that great, only when they are interpreted by our brains do they create our reality through our ability to experience and perceive. In this reality all of the best things in the world exist, and how we interact / see them is based solely on our ability to use our senses. Money is simply another form of energy and is not necessary for our brain to experience things.
So, the best things in life are free. But can be bought if you're a sucker.
Originally Posted by Photolysis
Guess what? You can throw around terms like enegy, and reality and so on all you want, but people can see you are talking crap.
What's your argument for time being real?
Originally Posted by Photolysis
Who gives a shit about a view no one in their right mind would take? Who cares how one random person decides to define it? I could call you racist because I take the view that "money is free" is a statement that refers to white superiority.
I believe I am in my right mind, and I hold this view. People hold separate views all the time. Considering them is how you get to know people and how they think. Everyone is just one random person. The only difference between some views are that more people have heard and accept them. But they are still from just random people deciding to define stuff.
You could call someone racist because you take the view that "money is free refers to white superiority" However, others who look at that view probably would not agree with it because you didn't give a reason for why that is your view. You would have to explain how that refers to white superiority for me to see where you're coming from on that one.
Originally Posted by Photolysis
Any rational person would rightly call me on my stupidity of completely redefining a statement and drawing a conclusion from it.
Any rational person would explain their own definition of the statement in the case that there is a difference in understanding the terms that could be leading to the different conclusions.
Originally Posted by Photolysis
It doesn't matter in the slightest if someone views work as costing nothing because it is completely and utterly WRONG. It's the definition of work, you know, to actually do work?
The definition of work is force times distance. You can exert a force on something and move it (or yourself if it's really big) some distance, thus doing work, and not have to pay anything. I would say work is free. There are forms of work you have to pay for, but that's just because you're probably paying someone else to do the work, and you yourself are not doing any work. In which case the work is still free, you're just paying for someone else to do it. For whom you're paying, it doesn't cost him anything to do that work, in fact, he is gaining money (the opposite of cost) to do that very same work for which you are claiming costs money.
If anything, work gives you money. Think about it, if you went to work and didn't do any work, I don't think they would pay you. However, you can buy work, i.e. trade your money for someone to perform the work in your stead. In which case you are buying a favor, not work, as the one performing the work, not the one buying the work, is the one who does the work. The actual doing of the work is free, and if anything, results in you receiving money.
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