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      IF:
      G = 5
      M = 6
      m = 6
      R = 5
      r = ?
      n = 6
      v = 3
      :
      (G*M*m)/((r-R)^2))-G*M*n)/R^2 = (m*v^2)/r-R

      r = 0.405218595

      Unless I'm doing it wrong.
      Last edited by [SomeGuy]; 10-25-2008 at 12:43 AM.

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      wtf

      Anyway that exponential equation only has one solution.

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      Quote Originally Posted by xXSomeGuyXx View Post
      IF:
      G = 5
      M = 6
      m = 6
      R = 5
      r = ?
      n = 6
      v = 3
      :
      (G*M*m)/((r-R)^2))-G*M*n)/R^2 = (m*v^2)/r-R

      r = 0.405218595

      Unless I'm doing it wrong.
      You're doing it wrong. I said to get big R as a function of all the constants. I didn't say you could just arbitrarily throw in numbers willy nilly.

      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      wtf

      Anyway that exponential equation only has one solution.
      It's got 2. One at 0 and another greater than 0.

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      OH! Okay. That makes sense nao. Shit...

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      You're right, it does have a solution just under 5, and I've got no fucking idea how to get rid of the fucking lns and I feel very inadequate right now.

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      Lol.

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      I think in general xe^x=1 might be impossible to solve properly?

      It can be done by iteration... but not precisely?

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      I'm stuck on

      For example, not real problem:

      4=[44456.55^x]x

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      I think in general xe^x=1 might be impossible to solve properly?

      It can be done by iteration... but not precisely?
      Quote Originally Posted by xXSomeGuyXx View Post
      I'm stuck on

      For example, not real problem:

      4=[44456.55^x]x
      These are both the same basic equation. And yes, x can't be solved for explicitly. And R can't be solved for explicitly in the other example. I chose those examples to prove that not all equations can be solved

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      So, they are impossible?

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      Grr... I just felt as if everything I'd ever learnt was falling from under my feet.

      Does this mean the roots are transcendental? Well, considering the expression contains e I suppose it'd be hard for them not to be; but would it still be the case if the equation contained 2^x?

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      I sucked my brain juice dryon those two!!! GRRR I agree with Xei.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      Grr... I just felt as if everything I'd ever learnt was falling from under my feet.

      Does this mean the roots are transcendental? Well, considering the expression contains e I suppose it'd be hard for them not to be; but would it still be the case if the equation contained 2^x?
      Not to worry, the roots can be expressed as convergent series. And yes, any base other than 1, (-1,) or 0 gives roots that can't be expressed in closed form.

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      Aha, that density proof proves it. There is no number between the two so they are not distinct reals. </thread>

      So yes, I will concede that 0.9999... = 1

      But I still do not agree with the algebra method of proving it. Especially the one that uses 0.33333.... The other one is up in the air but I don't really care.

      And yes, Xei, I am a math student. First year majoring in comp. sci. at waterloo. But I HATE pure math =/

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      0.999~ == 1

      but

      0.999~ !== 1

      I think that satisfies all sides, no?

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      var ag = "Agree"
      function lol(){
      if(world.explode==false){
      xXSomeGuyXx.agree();
      }
      else if(world.explode==true){
      world.explode();
      print("WOW");
      }
      }

      lol()
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      Ynot/Me=Grod

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      Quote Originally Posted by arby View Post
      But I still do not agree with the algebra method of proving it.
      You're entitled to think what you want. Just don't expect to be correct.
      Quote Originally Posted by Ynot View Post
      0.999~ == 1

      but

      0.999~ !== 1

      I think that satisfies all sides, no?
      IMO !== is just stupid, PHP should've stuck with !=

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      what it boils down to is
      does having the same value make something Equal?
      (that's equal with a big E)

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      Well = is an assigning operator, == is a comparing operator. I think !== makes more sense, don't you?

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      3 != 4
      (not equal in value)

      3 == 3.0
      (equal in value only)

      3 !== 3.0
      (equal in value, but not in context)

      3.0 === 3.0
      (equal in value, and equal in context)

      *edit*
      is having the same value the only thing that makes numbers Equal?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ynot View Post
      3 != 4
      (not equal in value)

      3 == 3.0
      (equal in value only)

      3 !== 3.0
      (equal in value, but not in context)

      3.0 === 3.0
      (equal in value, and equal in context)
      That actually is quite awesome, I retract my previous statement.

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      That's programming for ya'.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ynot View Post
      0.999~ == 1

      but

      0.999~ !== 1

      I think that satisfies all sides, no?
      LOL

      awesome

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      Oww my head...

      Hmm... I'll ask my pre-calc teacher on Monday.

      And out of curiosity, when was the last time someone on DV admitted they were wrong?

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