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    1. 12-30-2008 12:30 AM #1
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      What is Fair?

      Fair - without favoring one party over another: (there are other definitions of fair)

      I don't think a lot of things are fair. If that were the case, everything would result in a tie, as no one would have the advantage. If in a fight, both people are evenly matched as far as physical skill, it can be claimed to be a fair fight. But if one person has a superior mental technique, then clearly they have the upper hand, and the fight is no longer fair. Or if one person has slightly quicker reaction times, then they gain the advantage, and it is no longer fair.

      To expect things to be fair, is to expect things to be the same, which in my opinion, could get a little boring, with everyone doing the same things. I mean, if people are doing different things, then they get more practice with those different things, resulting in a higher level of proficiency, and an unfair advantage over those not doing those things.

      I think we're meant to be different, and have varying levels of proficiency in many different things. This way, we can experience a greater variety of things with a higher level of quality. Fairness only becomes an issue when people start competing against each other, which is the case for a lot of things today.
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    2. 12-30-2008 04:53 AM #2
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      I want my 30 seconds back.
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    3. 12-30-2008 05:02 AM #3
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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
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      Life's not fair.
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    4. 12-30-2008 05:08 AM #4
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      This is fair...




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    5. 12-30-2008 06:00 AM #5
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      This is fair...






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    6. 12-30-2008 07:31 AM #6
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      I don't see how fair becomes 'evenly matched'. The concept of fair postulates a third party to a 2 party conflict. Unless you are suggesting that the forces of nature constitute a conscious third party that has willingly favored one or the other in terms of skills and abilities in any given situation, I would say we have all been dealt fairly, since we are all created from the same basic forces.

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    7. 12-31-2008 03:11 AM #7
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      Xaqaria, you're right, I have mistakenly associated evenly matched with fairness. Fairness is independent of skill, you can lose in a fair match to someone who has more skill than you.
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    8. 12-31-2008 08:05 PM #8
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      fair doesn't mean sameness

      fair means you get what you gave, you reap what you sow, karma!
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    10. 01-01-2009 04:35 AM #10
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      I always thought "Fair" was determined by how well the party follows a set of rules, a set of constants. Everyone knows it's the variables that make it interesting.
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    11. 01-01-2009 05:50 AM #11
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      Fair is when me and my siblings get the same amount of chocolate from my parents.

      Plain and simple.

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    12. 01-01-2009 08:37 AM #12
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      Quote Originally Posted by Kushna Mufeed View Post
      Fair is when me and my siblings get the same amount of chocolate from my parents.

      Plain and simple.
      That's too much of what I've experienced with fairness, leading to my first post in this thread. Although, given the same amount of chocolate, there are many different things you can do with it.
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    13. 01-01-2009 08:44 AM #13
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      None can be held responsible for the fairness that nature does or doesn't bestow.

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    14. 01-01-2009 10:06 AM #14
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      Fair is making 10 bucks an hour while you make 200 bucks an hour for your boss.
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      Quote Originally Posted by grasshoppa View Post
      Fair is making 10 bucks an hour while you make 200 bucks an hour for your boss.
      No, fair is the freedom to start your own company if you can't stand working for someone else.
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      Fairness is relative. The universe just doesn't care.
      "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." -Einstein
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    17. 01-02-2009 10:19 AM #17
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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      No, fair is the freedom to start your own company if you can't stand working for someone else.
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