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BELIEF and FAITH are for people who are weak and dont really care or want to know if there is a GOD or not... |
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Unless otherwise stated, views expressed in this post are not necessarily representative of the official Dream Views stance. Hell, it's probably not even representative of me.
I personally don't believe there is a God or higher power. I have my reasons for believing this too. But I respect everybody nomatter what their beliefs are. |
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yes, I agree with you faatfaat |
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Me too. Also, I just wonder that if what 99.99% of humans are perceiving every day isn't true reality, what is, and what is the difference between that reality and the one we're percieving? What makes one more correct/real/accurate/consistent than the other? Not only do I doubt there is an actual answer to that question (which is why I don't bother contemplating what "reality" is anymore), but if there is, we will never be able to discover it (sort of like how you can't prove god's there if he never makes it obvious). |
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There's nothing funny about it, you could say it is just random but that wouldn't be very honest. I still act as if physical laws apply, but I admit I have no knowledge of the external universe, but act because it is the best explanation I yet have. |
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Great topic! |
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Belief in the Christian God seems to me very much unbelievable. Thus, i suppose i'd call myself an agnostic existentialist (bar the theory about no human nature), or maybe even a nihilist - though not pessimistic. I support nihilism as a justified world view only to the extent that true knowledge is unattainable (i.e. technically/logically the cogito - solipsism - is unavoidable), and this is in no way tied to pessimism. If anything, such existentialist nihilist doubt promotes optimism (much moreso than pessimism) in the freedom of unbound, unbelieving existence. Faith, i attach to a weakness of the will (sound familiar? it's reasonable to steal others' views if they're correct), to an irrational desire to be commanded (by faith, belief). Thus it is in non-belief (not disbelief) of God, strength and free-will is attainable. In detaching myself from the restrictions of faith i can be more free than any believer, and more truthful to reality than any metaphysician. |
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It sounds like you and I agree about many things. |
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Even if I call myself an alien buddha existentialmystic christian nihilist, it still means I dont really know who I am..... |
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The thing i hate is that people seem to assume that if you believe in God you cannot believe i science. Do people really believe that God is an idiot? If he can create the universe i think he could do it in such a way that we could come up with and explination ourselves. |
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If God created all this, he did a pretty shitty job. Why, for instance, did he wait 13 and a half billion years to introduce humans in the universe?!?! He could have just popped into all into existence right away! Also, why did he create us with a whole bunch of useless vestigial organs in our bodies? Did he have some spare parts and just decide to stuff them somewhere inside of us? |
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Well, I am agnostic so the question isn't for me, "Why or why don't you believe in God?" but what are aspects that affect your belief or disbelief of a higher power? I became a Christian when I was twelve because where I am from, the Christian-driven southern Bible belt, it is what is expected for someone like me. Everything I had ever been taught had been based on the fact that there was a Christian God who knew everything that happened and would happen and had a "master plan" which involved Jesus Christ dying for everyone's sins. Since then, however, I have begun to question my faith. While I would really like to believe that a god exists, although I don't deny it completely and am open to anything, there are just too many contradictions for me to believe in this Christian God. For example, one of the most common paradoxes created by a God who knows everyone's steps before you are even born is this: How can a human being truly have free will if God controls everything we do and knows every step we will take and every decision we will make? Another problem I have found is how can "loving, merciful God" cause so much hatred and horrible killing between his creations? And why is it that he makes it possible for people to die such horrible deaths as some do? I understand that people have to die in both a religous and secular world, but how could a lord who loves us so unconditionally cause so much pain and disgusting death to his own creations? These are just some things I have trouble understanding, feel free to contradict me. |
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Try to understand the contradictions, and how 2 seemingly contradictions can indeed co-exist. Like u said, you're open. There's plenty of paradoxes that are indeed true. Fate exists, but then again, no in different senses. Same goes for time and stuff. They can create endless discussions.... |
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naturals are what we call people who did all the right things accidentally
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[22:59] <Kaniaz> You basically did a massive shit on the rug of this IRC
[22:59] <Kaniaz> And called it a message
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