Originally Posted by
invader_tech
That's right Serkat. The way in which I wished to relate these two kinds of laws though was by representing them as a form of "invisible" boundary, whether they be easily breakable man-made laws that rely on motivation in order to maintain, or the boundaries that are created with the design of a program in the environment that the program governs. I'd like to think of the program example as being analogous to the real world (which is open to objection, of course), in that the laws that they represent are enforced differently from social laws.
If a program can be cracked from the outside to the point that all of its laws are circumvented, can that be done with the real universe? Is there some way to go "outside" to accomplish this, from a theoretical standpoint?
Furthermore, any strict rule (including the so far unbreakable, unbendable rules of the universe) does something very specific. They serve to maintain something in the system that they are a part of. We know that the rules of our universe serve to maintain a sort of balance, an equality. One can get no more out of something than they put in. So where does that standard come from, in regards to our universe? The natural laws are consistent throughout our observable material world, so far as we know, much the same way a program's laws are maintained throughout the secondary reality it generates via the use of a processor. From a philosophical standpoint, would the natural laws that govern our universe require maintenance from an outside source?
That last question can imply a number of different things (our world is a virtual world in which the natural laws are the work of the program, or that our world is maintained by super-intelligent dog-people, whatever). The jist of this is that a rule of any kind requires some form of meaning that is given to it in order to exist in the system for which it is a part.
All of this is open to debate, I'd much like to hear what anyone has to think about this.