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      logic loophole?

      I didn't know if this belonged here or not, but I am facing a logic dilemma and I can't seem to figure it out....

      the question is...

      Premise 1) whenever you eat at McDonalds you get sick. No matter what you eat there or even if you bring your own food.

      premise 2) You ate at McDonalds

      so logical conclusion, you will get sick. apparently there is a loophole...I can't understand the loophole though. Have any of you had a question like this?
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      Maybe you only get sick if you eat inside the building? Could be at McDonald's but eating outside.

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      I really don't understand the question. Is the loophole the drive through?

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      see...I dont get it either. I guess there is some logic rule that can be used but I dont get it.
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      When did you eat at McDonald's? Maybe you ate there two years ago, so you can't say that you will get sick because of that...you probably already got sick.

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      Maybe you get a heart attack on the way out before the sickness kicks in?

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      Premise 1 doesnt specify when you get sick after eating McDonalds, Premise 2 is in past tense so im assuming you may not get sick for another 50 years even.
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      ^that works too

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      Quote Originally Posted by shroom View Post
      Premise 1 doesnt specify when you get sick after eating McDonalds, Premise 2 is in past tense so im assuming you may not get sick for another 50 years even.
      this could possibly work. but someone else tried the death thing and the response was "well, that doesnt mean you wouldnt have gotten sick in the future" So I guess that means there is some way to say you wont get sick period? I can only think it must be in the syntax because otherwise it is a definite...
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      I really think it needs to specify when you ate at McDonald's

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      Where did you get this question from?

      Are you asking how a person could not get sick?

      If you found this online provide a link to the source because I think there is a bigger picture missing here.

      It could have been that you ate at a different McDonalds this time.

      Also, maybe you built up an immunity by now? I didn't see an "you always get sick" in there, so I'm just grasping at whatever I can.

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      I got it from one of our teachers trying to be smart, It seems like nobody has actually heard of a stupid question like this before. However, I think you may be on to something with the ate at a different McDonalds...Ill get the answer.
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      Philosopher don't concern yourself with Maths.
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      Could it be that you can't get sick because you are already sick?

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      The loophole is pretty obvious, I think? ~

      You ATE at McDonalds, and in the first premise it's when you EAT at McDonalds.

      So you're not necessarily sick any more, nor will you definitely get sick because you may interpret the first sentence as only while you are there eating at McDonalds.
      You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light.

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      so...Mr. philosophiser totally is an a hole. Today he goes "the answer is, there is no loophole!" *Chuckle chuckle*

      Im totally taking ClouDs argument and pwning him with it.
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      Sounds like a clever man, this teacher of yours.

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      ^Lulz
      You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light.

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      Quote Originally Posted by wendylove View Post
      Philosopher don't concern yourself with Maths.
      but there are so many variables!!!
      you need to explain yourself a little more... im assuming mcdonalds makes you sick? if its all in your head, there is no loophole

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kael Seoras View Post
      When did you eat at McDonald's? Maybe you ate there two years ago, so you can't say that you will get sick because of that...you probably already got sick.
      This could actually be a loophole. It makes a lot of sense. The second premise says that you ate at Mcdonalds and it does not specify when. The logical conclusion that you will get sick could be wrong because you could have already been sick meaning no sickness from it ahead of you. Try that on your philosopher/teacher.

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