Thread: "Reality 2" Experiences?

You naturals! Teach me how!! You are so lucky. I think, which got maybe 2 LD a month . Ive never experienced something similar to that but that is my goal! How long have you been doing Lucid Dreaming?

I've never experienced anything like this. You seem to be a testament to anyone who's ever "wished" for lucid dreams all the time, and the negative aspects associated with such a thing in excess..

My friend and I were talking about making a movie about something similar to this a few weeks prior. One in which the main character keeps "waking up" and falling into different realities... Raising the question of how real our reality really is..

At least you've found a solution to your problem. I'd expect with all those experiences you're definately an extremely cultured person.

^^^
eh, im not so much cultured from that than from other experiences i guess. I have been to Hong Kong, Taiwan, spent all summer in Beijing, travelled on my own to Nanjing, Hangzhou, and Shanghai, spending a year here in Japan, going back to China this winter, and after my Japan thing is over probably transferring into a uni in Beijing to finish up. Not so much cultured as I am crazy and wreckless. The main thing that the dream thing taught me was to be more wreckless and spontaneous and do crazy things to make life more interesting.

Originally posted by Jammy
You naturals! Teach me how!! You are so lucky. I think, which got maybe 2 LD a month . Ive never experienced something similar to that but that is my goal! How long have you been doing Lucid Dreaming?

eh, for me, when i am dreaming, i have more or less 2 different perspectives. a birds-eye view and a FPS sort of view. it is really kind of similtaneous. I just realize that it is not right and it goes lucid for me. takes a lot of restraint to not do it when i just want standard crazy dreams out of my control.

You can just set yourself at a chair and refuse to do anything that is consciouss. Watch passivly. Or try to sleep in your dream.... is it really hard not to be consciouss while dreaming!? Damn im looking forward to when im that progressed...

You say you waited at bus stop and went through college, yet if you knew you were dreaming, why not dulge into the finer things in life, could of used your imagination become rich, live in a mantion have people waiting on you hand and foot, a million chicks around.

Originally posted by Laowai
This is more or less a crosspost from another forum (SA), they sent me here to ask.

Well, this being the internet, lucid dreaming is one of those cool things. However, I had a bad experience, and am wondering if anyone else has had similar.

About 3 years ago, I got into a state where lucid dreaming was incredibly easy, as in every night. It just sort of happened. I didn't need a cue anymore, it was an immediate reaction that it was a dream. After about a year of it, it started to get boring. Dreamtime is one of those things where your imagination runs wild. I started to use it instead to work on things in real life, figuring out crap for assignments, etc. Dreaming that you are coding is possibly the worst dream ever by the way. Getting into dreams turned into more of a task of just continuing where I left off the night before. This is about where it all went downhill for me. The dreams were boring, the dreams were short. I started to let go of the control and strive for reality. The dreams became sort of hyper-real, and longer than they should be. This reached a peak about a year and a half ago that screwed me up a lot. Have you ever had a dream (that you remember) where it was not some abstract length of time, but rather incredibly long? My fun ended with a 2 week stretch of continual dreams that were as real as \"reality\", just that the people in them were not from my daily life, they were dream people who I had never seen before or knew, but they were there. I had dreams that literally lasted years in one night, would wake up and not know what the hell was going on. The worst was that I would remember the dream in full. I went through somewhere around 40 years in this dream time. Finished college, finished a graduate degree, had real life problems associated with it the whole time, got a job, moved, got married, had kids, had a life going on for all intents and purposes. Then, I wake up and I am still in college, and have to continue on with the drudgery of such life. The worst part was that it wasn't a dream with sudden time jumps, it was day by day, hour by hour. Complete with times of boredom and waiting for the bus. My good friend alcohol finally cured this. Dreamless sleep was a godsend. Now, I have dreams again, some of them lucid, but I keep control and exert it.

It wasnt a lifetime in a night sort of thing... just years in a night, complete memory of it, and more or less picking up exactly where I left off the next night. It fucks with you even more if you start to think about it during the day. I think part of it was that regular life was pretty boring at the time, and mentally I wanted more out of my day. Booze shut up that part of the brain for me for short term, and long term has more or less just been keeping reality interesting. I do get a fear every so often of \"waking up\" though.

Anyone else with here go through something similar?

I agree with the others - having an entire lifetime in an LD, means you can form a life that doesn't need to be meaningless and overly 'real' at all

In addition, once you're bored of a lucid dream, there are ways of either waking up or changing the dream itself

I can't say I understand how horrible this problem can be... perhaps you just need more dream control?
I mean, hell, you're effectively extending your life, in terms of raw experience...

Originally posted by Placebo
I agree with the others - having an entire lifetime in an LD, means you can form a life that doesn't need to be meaningless and overly 'real' at all

In addition, once you're bored of a lucid dream, there are ways of either waking up or changing the dream itself

I can't say I understand how horrible this problem can be... perhaps you just need more dream control?
I mean, hell, you're effectively extending your life, in terms of raw experience...

it's fun in the dream in a way. it's waking up that really sucks then. seriously, you get bored with the fantasy bullshit after a while, it happens.

Originally posted by Placebo
I agree with the others - having an entire lifetime in an LD, means you can form a life that doesn't need to be meaningless and overly 'real' at all

In addition, once you're bored of a lucid dream, there are ways of either waking up or changing the dream itself

I can't say I understand how horrible this problem can be... perhaps you just need more dream control?
I mean, hell, you're effectively extending your life, in terms of raw experience...

I was about to say something almost exactly like this.

Laowai, you reached one of my goals in life. If you were merely waiting on buses and studying for accounting courses, of course you were bored. You could have been thinking about the secret of the universe, creating worlds, becoming parts of realities that look like great paintings, experiencing the most psychedelic mind states possible, having ultimate sexual experiences, traveling time, dividing up into multiple selves, etc. Some of the stuff I have in mind for what I want to do in lucid dreams is stuff that would be hard to even explain. You could create the ultimate surrealism and even the ultimate dadaism and metaphysical paradoxes in your lucid dreams. The possibilities are infinite. If you can live 40 years in a dream, you have the key to immortality. You should make the most of your ability. In my opinion, you should get back to it and see what you can do. Lucid dreaming is the ultimate frontier.

I don't think that paragraph quite explained what I am trying to say. I'll keep trying. I like to ride around and look at old houses. There is an element of nostalgic beauty to many of them. There is a distinct area of emotion that comes with looking at certain houses. In a lucid dream a few weeks ago, I looked at a house in Florida and experienced the emotions and aestheticism I am talking about, but I expanded those elements greatly and went on a tremendous mental trip with extremes of those two elements while the house got taller, flickered, and did things that can't be fully explained in terms of the properties we deal with in our waking reality. It was like having a magical power. It is as if the brain can enter a whole new mental circuit in lucid dreams, which is what Terence McKenna said of the drug DMT. I think lucid dreaming has even more possibilities, partly because the dreamer can gain greater control of the mental voyage. I did the same thing when I went back in time and watched Jefferson Airplane perform at Woodstock. I did it again about two weeks ago when I went back and time and visited my mother in the 70's and talked to bishops of some bizarre metaphysics religion (made up religion) at my 1975 house (not the real one, although I experienced "memories" of it). The bishops wore black robes and crazy hats as religious garb. I felt a high as I told them I am a consciousness traveler who moves throughout time. The situations are not simply explained by the objects in them. There are psychedelic/surreal states that can be very extreme in dreams. Mastering this stuff is one of my top goals in life.

Fascination is by definition not boring. In lucid dreams, you can control your levels of fascination and mental exhilaration.