Say, is there a way to insert YouTube videos directly into the thread? |
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Okay, then, here: |
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I have no scientific proof that synchronicities exist, and I don't necessarily believe in them. I was offering a point of view, not a fact. I was just saying that there are patterns in nature that are a little deeper than the surface. I gave an example of this not as proof in synchronicites. I don't know how or if there is a way to prove a subjective experience that is dependent on the consciousness and perception of an observer. This is the nature of subjective experiences. For example, if you start reading about 11:11 and then you start seeing 11:11 more often when you look at clocks, I am not proposing that there is any meaningful signicance to 11:11. But I am just musing, not believing, but musing that perhaps consciousness can create patterns. It seems to me that nature operates according to certain principles and where there is a pattern in one level, there are patterns in all levels. Nature seems to operate according to cycles. Such as night and day, winter and summer, sleep and awake, life and death, big bang and big crunch, etc. I know that there are scientific reasons for these cycles, but these are universal patterns here that seem to express themselves in all levels of manifestation. I am not saying that synchronicities are inherently true, just musing that perhaps there could be deeper patterns here and that it is interesting to see where awareness of said synchronicities lead the consciousness who is engaged in a predatory stalking of said synchronicities. Speaking as a philosophy, not necessarily as a scientific fact. |
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In the URL for a YouTube video, it is the string of digits at the end. When you put "yt" in square brackets ([]) on either side of, just like the code for text formatting. |
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Thanks for the tip. i get it now. |
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Well, that's fine, if we all know what's going on, but might as well be talking about pretending there's a pattern. |
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But what about when it seems as if there is a causal link? Like, for instance, when one dreams of a many pyramid of fire and the next day one sees |
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I do love a good debate my dear Watson |
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"MementoMori, the lucid machine"
"There's nothing better than knowing what it's like to fly like superman. Being fully aware of the air whipping by you, controlling every movement of every single atom in your body with a single thought. It's real freedom, and there's not a word good enough to describe it, so I'll just call it dreamy for now."
It's understandable. Science was like that one smart kid in high school, who really wasn't all that socially awkward, but some of the kids treated him like he was, because they found his intellect threatening. |
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"MementoMori, the lucid machine"
"There's nothing better than knowing what it's like to fly like superman. Being fully aware of the air whipping by you, controlling every movement of every single atom in your body with a single thought. It's real freedom, and there's not a word good enough to describe it, so I'll just call it dreamy for now."
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"MementoMori, the lucid machine"
"There's nothing better than knowing what it's like to fly like superman. Being fully aware of the air whipping by you, controlling every movement of every single atom in your body with a single thought. It's real freedom, and there's not a word good enough to describe it, so I'll just call it dreamy for now."
Well, the problem with your anecdotes is the problem with all anecdotes; it's a claim, about a memory, about a perception of an event. In this case, it involves a dream, which is an inherently subjective experience. I have no independent access to the events described, even the ones that took place in the real world, so it is impossible for me to know how remarkable they really are. |
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Nice video. I always wondered about the dice when playing yahtzee! |
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A couincidence can't explain everything that you simply cannot explain. Not to go into this kind of talk but i have had a really strange thing that happened to me that was the start of a mini series of small things that lead up to a large thing, a large picture if you wanna call it that. It was fate, it was meant to be and there is no couincidence about it. In the end this was and will always be the best thing to ever happen to me. Fate is not some type of "magick" that people fantasize about like people tend to use the word. If something happens in your life, anything really then it wa meant to be. All you have to do is look at the small events that lead to the whole picture, it leads to something much bigger then you would know at the time, because it's the "bigger picture". I believe some things are simply just couincidences, but it depends on what. What you have to do, is observe what is happening. It's not something you can guess, it's something that happens. It leads your life at the time to this 1 event, even if it's not as big as you may think. Not everything has a benefit that you would want, but in the end you will be glad it did happen. Fate is not some type of selfish act or something, but you get the picture. Personally, i can't even understand someone who does not believe in fate, to me it's laid right before our eyes. Life could be a couincidence and it probably is, just a mix of this a mix of that all put together and you got a plate full of spaghetti with some sauce, and whatever you sprinkle on it. |
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Last edited by LucidFlanders; 12-16-2009 at 11:05 AM.
I don't really understand why people put so much emphasis and trust in science, as if its the ultimate explanation.. I mean how many times has science been wrong, corrected, changed, and admitted to not understanding everything.. sometimes you have to look beyond scientific facts and think outside the box to things that cannot be explained. Especially peoples subjective experiences. They obviously cannot be proven, but to the person who experienced it, to them it was real even if it cant be readily explained. What I'm saying is, if science has been wrong so many times in the past...maybe it isn't right about everything now either. |
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" If you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you"
"He who fights with monsters, might he take care lest he thereby become a monster"
When was science wrong..? |
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This is a misunderstanding of what science is. "Science" has never been wrong. Science is a method. Individual theories and scientists have been wrong, but science itself is, by its nature, self correcting. |
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Thanks for saying that for me, I was going to use Diamond Eye's attempted response as an example but you've covered most of the bases there I think. |
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Last edited by Xei; 12-17-2009 at 02:04 AM.
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The perception and recognition of coincidence is a subjective phenomenon and outside the scope of science and cannot be proven. But it is not meant to be proven, just as you aren't meant to prove that you are in love or that you like apple pie. There are no facts regarding it. |
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"MementoMori, the lucid machine"
"There's nothing better than knowing what it's like to fly like superman. Being fully aware of the air whipping by you, controlling every movement of every single atom in your body with a single thought. It's real freedom, and there's not a word good enough to describe it, so I'll just call it dreamy for now."
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