Originally Posted by
Universal Mind
That is part of our disagreement, but other matters are involved. Even if it can be successfully argued that the entire scheme of time is one coherent whole existing in eternity and not linear, there is the issue of who observed the big bang, the formation of Earth, and the earliest stages of evolution. No matter how time can be classified, those events did not have observers. Also, Really started asking about how things happen relative to other things, which I still don't see the sense in. He asked what the big bang happened relative to. I have been illustrating the nonsensical nature of that issue.