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      Is it possible to reconcile God and science?

      I'm not religious but I believe in God. Religion is obviously putting up a fake God for the sake of surpressing the masses, and both atheists and theists buy this image of this fake God instead of going on the search for God themself. So basically both atheists and theists are building their beliefs around something made for the purpose of distracting the masses, to lead the masses away from God, they are having a pointless debate that is leading to nowhere. The Bible was created at the same time as the rise of the Roman Empire, it was a tool to remove native religion and culture from countries which they have colonized by replacing it with another religion, christianity.

      I believe in science and evolution, but to me it's obvious that God seeded evolution as there is no evidence whatsoever for trans-species evolution and no evidence for the origin of the cell from which all live arose, so I'm an evolutionary creationist. Science does not have an explanation for the origin of life, so I came up with an explanation myself; God who has always been there, created the world. As the present is created from the past, and the future created from the present, there is only the present moment. There is only a single moment in time as the past does no longer exist, and the future does not yet exist, only the present moment exists. So the idea of linear time most people believe in and base their thinking on is false. Time is cylcic so this allows for the idea of God having always been there.

      And nope I don't have proof for God, I just have to go by faith just like science goes by faith that DNA and cells popped into existence by random chemicals bumping into eachother. The only difference here is that I believe it was not random, but created. When you believe in this, everything becomes clear in the sense that your thinking has a clear direction, if the cell is created it must have a logical structure, so it will be easier to figure out the structure. I am still trying to figure out how God did it tho, how he created the universe, and maybe it is impossible to figure it out, but my belief in God tells me the universe is logically structured, as it is created, so it must be possible to figure it out if investigated long enough.

      Does the belief in God serve any purpose? It does for me as I'm searching for answers. The idea of God, the idea that this world is logically created improves my thinking in the sense that I will easier understand the mechanisms of life. Ironically enough, this is also the axiom science is based on: the universe follows a fixed set of laws, science is the search for these laws. This axiom is pretty much the same thing as my belief in God: This universe follows a fixed set of laws so the universe must have been created. Going from the assumption that the universe is created by an intelligence serves pretty much the same purpose as going from the assumption that the universe follows a fixed set of laws.

      Also another purpose of belief in God is the abstract idea of belief itself. If you have strong belief, in anything, you can get anywhere. Fake it until you make it. The idea of God erases all doubt from the mind because knowing that everything follows logic, you know when something goes wrong, it's your own fault for not having seen the mechanisms behind it. You no longer blame other people for this and that, and take full responsibility for your own actions. Instead of blaming people, you will start and try to figure out the mechanisms behind the problem, it is my faith in God that tells me it is possible to figure out the mechanisms in the first place, because the world was logically created

      And yes I do very much realize people think I'm intellectually challenged because I believe in creationism and God, but then again I also believe in the scientific method. So to me this is nothing but pointless prejudice because I use the scientific method to arrive at the truth, and I also use another method, logical thinking to arrive at other truths. So no matter how you put, my truths are pretty much the same as those of science, except I have more truths which give me a more elaborate perspective on the world. Science believes in A. I believe in A' and B. So I don't understand when people tell me that I'm wrong and they are right when we share almost the exact same beliefs on science. I do understand when people tell me that my belief in God is not evidenced, I agree with that.






      TL;DR - I believe in God and science, at the same time, and I believe these two ideas can be perfectly reconciled. So what are your thoughts on this, what makes you think the idea of God and science can, or cannot be combined?
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      Lawyer: So does this theory of evolution necessarily mean that there is no God?
      Professor Frink: Of course not. It just says that God is an impotent nothing from nowhere with less power than the undersecretary of Agriculture, who has very little power in our system.
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      - No sir, I'm a dreamer.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba View Post
      as there is no evidence whatsoever for trans-species evolution


      Seriously we've explained this to you with very small words about a hundred times now.

      I'll see you later; I'm going to go teach my pet rock about genetic drift. He's a bit slow but he's an incomparably better learner than you.
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      Not again. Sorry.

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