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      Talking I love Satan

      Thread title just meant to garner attention.

      It seems as though Satan is given such a bad rap in the bible. From what I understand.. Satan is just an angel.. a fallen angel yes but.. just an angel.

      I understand duality and how god is supposedly the face of good while satan is the face of evil. But.. wouldn't that make satan just as powerful as god himself? Let go of this disney channel nickelodeon good always win idea because while instilling good morals in children is good.. this is life outside your television set and good doesn't always win.

      Christians may be shitting their pants right now but seriously.. the only ones who actually "buff up" satans power status in the bible are Christians anyway. Satan never spoke on his own behalf for what things he could do other than tempting Jesus in the wilderness.

      My point is.. well question really.. Is Satan really as powerful as we've all heard? If not, then why is it that many reinforce his mighty power but deem him less powerful than god if they are polar opposites and one is supposedly where all good stems and the other supposedly where all evil stems.

      Christians buff up this guys resume and blame everything bad that happens to them or others on satan.

      Seems like this guy gets more of a bad rap than black youth in harlem. Presupposing he exists, maybe he's not all that bad a guy? Afterall, the Illuminati (as far as I know) believe Satan was the good guy and God was the evil bastard for trying to shield truth and wisdom from them. Whereas Satan was the bringer of truth and understanding.. freeing humans from drone/slave-like "yes-man" behavior. Giving them choices.

      Just something I was thinking.
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      lol

      This is of course perfectly easy for any Christian to justify and rationalise (I can hear the bullshit mills getting warmed up as I type) and is not at all indicative that their faith is a pile of archaic nonsensical desert scribblings which even proud Christians don't actually pay attention to but will still hold up as some vague proof of their monopoly on being good people.
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      Satan only started being considered evil in about the 1500s. Before that, he was more like a lawyer, who argued the deads' sins against Saint Peter. God made the decision whether or not to condemn them to hell, or let them into heaven based on those arguments, now-a-days I think Saint Peter makes that decision himself.

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      Thanks ninja, I love to keep up with the cutting edge of theological research.
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      Well if you wanted to go by the bible, then Satan is also smarter than god. If you read the story of Job, Satan plays god like a fiddle, and effortlessly talks god into slaughtering hundreds of people and punishing his most faithful worshiper for no reason at all. The story of Job is supposed to answer the question of why god allows evil in the word, and according to the story it is because God is a 5 year old that easily gives into peer pressure any time Satan speaks a word. Satan didn't do anything in the story at all, God directly causes all of the suffering because Satan goaded him into it.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      Thanks ninja, I love to keep up with the cutting edge of theological research.
      I recommend everyone take a history of religion course if there is one at your college. Religion is very interesting if looked at objectively.

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      From what i've heard, satan doesn't sound all that bad. It's god I dislike.
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      /inb4 Carera tells us "Satan has got to go!"

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      Go to hell, bitch. I'm the evil one around here! (See what I did there, tehe)

      Bring me my fruit of knowledge and then leave me to plot and scheme against the one who calls himself god. One day I shall rule the universe!

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      Quote Originally Posted by GavinGill View Post
      /inb4 Carera tells us "Satan has got to go!"


      Quote Originally Posted by Raspberry View Post
      From what i've heard, satan doesn't sound all that bad. It's god I dislike.
      Yeah, god is a dick. Especially old testament god. Why did he make the jews wander the desert for forty years? He's like the mean ice cream man who drives an extra couple of blocks with kids chasing him.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post



      Yeah, god is a dick. Especially old testament god. Why did he make the jews wander the desert for forty years? He's like the mean ice cream man who drives an extra couple of blocks with kids chasing him.

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      Were you looking for actual responses to this issue Jeff or just an invitation for comedy hour from the normal people who hang out here?

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      I think most Christians ignore the old testament by now. Even Jesus ignored huge parts of the old testament because it was so bad. If you believe in the teaching of Jesus and follow what he says, you pretty much have to throw out most of the old testament, and just use the newer stuff.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Auron View Post
      Were you looking for actual responses to this issue Jeff or just an invitation for comedy hour from the normal people who hang out here?
      There are plenty of serious responses. :/

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      If Stan IS smarter than God, then I believe that he may in fact be more powerful. Let's consider the fact that he's still here, still around, even though he is supposed to be, in a way, God's opposite or enemy. He's sort of like Shredder. He never really goes down. The Bible says that in the end God will judge him and punish him, but he seems to be procrastinating.

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      7 The end of all things is near.

      "near."
      ...as in "over two thousand years from now."
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      Quote Originally Posted by sloth View Post
      If Stan IS smarter than God, then I believe that he may in fact be more powerful.

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      Its good to keep in mind that in many instances "satan" is used in the metaphorical sense. Much of the devil stuff was added by priests over time so they would have excuses to start wars.. Although I think the metaphorical representation of temptation is definitly something one should think about.

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      Quote Originally Posted by GavinGill View Post
      I really appreciate the joke, but that was intentional.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Auron View Post
      Were you looking for actual responses to this issue Jeff or just an invitation for comedy hour from the normal people who hang out here?
      I wasn't looking for most of what's been posted.

      I hate god posts can be saved for another thread. I'm wanting to explore the being called Lucifer.. not talk about how much I hate God.. which I personally think is a saddening thing. Trampling on anyones beliefs or god is a saddening thing.

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      So if a God were said to order people to commit mass genocides or rapes... you would be saddened if people trampled on that?

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      Meh, I don't hate god because I don't believe in him, and because I don't hate, just dislike... If I believed he were real, then I would dislike him, yup.

      To be honest I haven't heard a lot about Satan. I mean, there's the whole "he's bad" thing but I never actually heard about what happened, which should be an important aspect of it shouldn't it? I haven't really heard of anything he's done, just people from ages ago shouting about being possessed by the devil and dancing naked in forests.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Raspberry View Post
      Meh, I don't hate god because I don't believe in him, and because I don't hate, just dislike... If I believed he were real, then I would dislike him, yup.

      To be honest I haven't heard a lot about Satan. I mean, there's the whole "he's bad" thing but I never actually heard about what happened, which should be an important aspect of it shouldn't it? I haven't really heard of anything he's done, just people from ages ago shouting about being possessed by the devil and dancing naked in forests.
      Apparently he wanted to become God.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      So if a God were said to order people to commit mass genocides or rapes... you would be saddened if people trampled on that?
      If it comes at a price of making others sad, why do it? For our own dick tugging purposes? Why do we feel the need to reaffirm our beliefs or lack thereof on an internet forum and tear down others? For me it just comes down to what affect am I leaving on people. Are people better off for having met you, or worse off? I'm just trying to understand a mans mind, not tell him its inferior.
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