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      The Gods

      So, last night I was watching History Channel's special "History of The World in 2 Hours", it was awesome! The got to the point of about 6000BC when Judeo Christian beliefs started to become the norm and I remembered something I had read once that a God is created when an element in nature is personified. So, I wonder, if man created religion, we created the gods.

      What do you think?

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      So, I wonder, if man created religion, we created the gods.
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      Explain yourself better, please.

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      Also it would be wise to get this thread moved to it's appropriate sub-form R/S.

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      I couldn't find that sub forum. I did want to put it there.

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      Is this really a debate that needs continuation?

      I think it's reached all the eternal truths it can reach.
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      The Gods

      I started this thread in another section, so I'm sorry if you already saw it. I can't move threads either so me

      So, last night I was watching History Channel's special "History of The World in 2 Hours", it was awesome! The got to the point of about 6000BC when Judeo Christian beliefs started to become the norm and I remembered something I had read once that a God is created when an element in nature is personified. So, I wonder, if man created religion, we created the gods.

      What do you think?

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      Chris Abani talks about a tradition with the Igbo people and their Gods. He said that when the people wanted something they would create a God for it and create a shrine for that God and begin worshiping that God. However, when that God began to demand human sacrifice they destroyed its shrine and stopped uttering its name.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Prancingwolf View Post
      I couldn't find that sub forum. I did want to put it there.
      what the hell :/

      Extended Discusion -> R/S :/
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      Quote Originally Posted by Solarflare View Post
      what the hell :/

      Extended Discusion -> R/S :/
      Not even. It seems like the OP put maybe 2 second's thought into the post and didn't even bother to correct his grammar in the last sentence, here or in his reposting of it, or to state the question clearly. Belongs more in SB if you ask me.
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      he reposted it :/

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      Quote Originally Posted by Prancingwolf View Post
      So, last night I was watching History Channel's special "History of The World in 2 Hours", it was awesome! The got to the point of about 6000BC when Judeo Christian beliefs started to become the norm and I remembered something I had read once that a God is created when an element in nature is personified. So, I wonder, if man created religion, we created the gods.

      What do you think?
      My facebook "Religion" status has been "Man created god, not the other way around" for years.

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      I dunno, it's just something I thought of and makes a lot of sense.
      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
      My facebook "Religion" status has been "Man created god, not the other way around" for years.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
      My facebook "Religion" status has been "Man created god, not the other way around" for years.
      win

      mine just says atheist and my blocked my parents from viewing it

      they added me on fb :///////

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      Lol... Your parents care if your facebook status says atheist? I'd tell my parents to fuck off and not push their religion on me...

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      Quote Originally Posted by LonelyTurtle View Post
      Lol... Your parents care if your facebook status says atheist? I'd tell my parents to fuck off and not push their religion on me...
      yeah, buts its very weird saying that, and its easier not to

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      Quote Originally Posted by Solarflare View Post
      yeah, buts its very weird saying that, and its easier not to
      So you go to great lengths to hide from your parents like a wuss?
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      Or is he just smart enough to avoid unnecessary fights with his parents?



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      That would be the logical conclusion. There is a lot of debate about if religions are real, and if they are which is right. However if you go back and look at the history you can actually see when each of the religions are created, and what they are based on.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Darkmatters View Post
      Or is he just smart enough to avoid unnecessary fights with his parents?



      (really messin with you now! )
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      She's doing the "I'm so smart" head-tap thing. Derp!

      But yeah...

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      I'm transferring this here form a different thread because I think it fits in better here:

      Prancingwolf: One theory I believe is Satan was created as an Anti-God character to freighten people into adopting christianity. He is a personifactaion of evil people, things and deeds.
      Exactly - Jesus (or God) and Satan, the good cop / bad cop argument for being a good little clone and not thinking too much about how things work, just obey what you're told.

      If you're interested in this stuff, you should read Frazer's Golden Bough - Wikipedia page on it.

      Essentially the devil was a Christian re-interpretation of various Pagan nature gods and demi-gods like Pan, but taken from their rightful place in the nature cults and made the personification of evil instead. And the Jesus myth follows a line of similar myths of demigods like Heracles, born of the union of a god with a virginal mortal woman.

      And the centerpiece of this mythology is the idea that by Original Sin mankind has been forever separated from nature, and can now only be cleansed of sin by accepting Jesus (and incidentally accepting the whole mythology associated with him).

      ** edit **

      I want to add, that most people consider this extremely demeaning. First let me say, this is merely an anthropological investigation into the origins of myths, including the Christian myths.

      And second, it does not devalue the power of those myths at all.

      As Jung taught us, myth comes from the collective unconscious and mythological figures are full-blown archetypal forms in all their power and glory. Being expressions of powerful parts of the deepest regions of the psyche, they have far more power than any thought or idea we're capable of generating consciously. So, while the Gods are indeed creations of man in a sense, we actually are more properly their creations, since the collective unconscious is older and far more powerful than any individual human consciousness. Projections from this deep realm are so powerful and primordial that we have no choice but to see them as something outside ourselves and much larger than us. The realization that Gods and Heroes come from inner space rather than outer is no more than a relocation of the powerbase.

      So, to say that Gods are the creation of Man is not the same as saying "people just made them up" or "invented" them. The gods welled up unsummoned from depths too powerful to be controlled. And the Bible is not, as some claim, a work of science fiction, but rather a deep exploration of that Archetypal realm, though in somewhat distorted form in order to try to make the Archetypes conform to human ideals, which they refuse to do. And Archetypal form cannot be controlled or cleaned up to make it more presentable... if it represents something primal and powerful it will appear red in claw and fang like a nightmare creature and nothing can change that. Thus perhaps the Yaveh of the Old Testament in his brimstone and fire mode, and the New Testament's attempts to re-write and censor him into a kinder gentler God.
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      Duplicate threads merged.
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