"Magic is just science we don't understand yet" |
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I'm kind of sick of separating the two. People act like because spirituality is mostly a personal experience it therefore cannot be studied empirically. But Science exists to provide at least a basic foundation of consensus upon which to test our personal experiences. Nothing falls outside the realm of Science. Science is a method to observe the world. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
"Magic is just science we don't understand yet" |
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Science can't study spirituality because scientist are too intelligent to waste their time with that shit. |
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Right, things like DMT, near-death experiences and ancient books describing the after-life are the basis to start, essentially. For instance, between the Tibetan Book of the Dead and near-death.com I've noticed a similar sort of process is undergone after death in order to cleanse the spirit and allow it to be reborn. For one, the spirit is allowed to fuck around in its own dreamscape and live out its unfulfilled dreams. For two, there are pitfalls where the spirit can get sucked into illusion and forget the rebirth process. For three, there seems to be a life replay happening where you're forced to witness your life from an unfragmented perception. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
Arguing that consciousness is energy when it is blatantly obvious that consciousness is directly linked to the physical and chemical properties of the brain is just pure arrogance. If you give someone a lobotomy their entire personality is changed, if consciousness were simply energy how could this be possible? Attempting to argue that consciousness is something more than the biochemical processes in our brain is an exercise in ignorant futility. |
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Please reread the post Mr Strawman. I never said it was simply energy. It's also not simply material. Your claim is equally as arrogant as the one you pretended I made. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
This should help you understand why they're incompatible. |
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I am stating it as if it were true, granted. But I am not trying to argue it's true using any circular logic. I'm putting it on the table as possible in order to find proof for it because it resonates with my personal experiences. This is where the discussion part happens. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
Psychology and parapsychology are only ones that come in my mind. Everyone who has basic knowledge of psychology as science knows how hard it is to research compared to the more "materialistic" sciences like physics or chemistry. |
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Jujutsu is the gentle art. It's the art where a small man is going to prove to you, no matter how strong you are, no matter how mad you get, that you're going to have to accept defeat. That's what jujutsu is.
Please PM me about more details. |
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If the universe is somehow aware then by definition all science actually is spirituality. |
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We can find clues in the relationships between discoveries by modern mathematicians and esoteric philosophy. For instance, in Buddhism there are 10 levels of realization plus one final level of enlightenment. These 10 levels may refer to awareness of the other dimensions of reality. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
This: |
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I'm a mathematician. Wanna run some of those relationships by me; you know, to check that the mathematicians are saying their stuff backs up the spiritualists, and not just that spiritualists are saying that mathematicians are backing up the spiritualists? |
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What is spirituality? |
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I was distilling things for the purpose of making the pertinent argument clear. |
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Well force causes acceleration, mass only retards it. Sure it causes acceleration in other bodies with the gravitational field it causes. I still don't completely get how two different masses with two different gravitational fields accelerate at the same speed in one lol |
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What do you mean by Spirituality? My definition: Spirituality is about the inner subjective world that is a perpetual witness to phenomena. |
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