I literally ask myself the same question everyday. |
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Can anyone answer this question? |
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I literally ask myself the same question everyday. |
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You can say that this applies to every other thing that a lot of people get involved with. Politics, sports, video games, and even countries. In all of them there are people that constantly compare, bash, or accept each others ideas. In all of these situations mentioned, the conflict gets the most attention. A perfect example of this would be Pluto. |
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Most religious people don't really understand their religion and follow it through blind faith. When people present them with logical arguments they can not refute it, it upsets them, because its like saying their entire world view is wrong, and that can be troubling to people. That can be true of anything though, and people take their views really personally. |
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Religion tends to stir up peoples' sense of righteousness, and nothing is worse than that. It makes people feel that any act is justified and can be carried out with extreme hatred and impunity, and that it makes them right about everything. |
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Easy solution, people that have negative feelings about Religion here should just stay out of R/S. Or, create an additional sub-forum for just atheist. Let atheist play there and religious people play in the religion sub-forum and keep the two opposing parties away from each other by setting up some protocols. If people who are not atheist have questions for atheist, there are other forums for such things and vice-versa. |
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If I'm not mistaken, I don't think the OP simply meant theists vs atheists. I think he also meant disputes between various religions as well. On that note, it makes 'logic vs. faith' a moot point. |
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Look to the middle east... |
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Not to mention people like me who disagree with theists and atheists. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
Auron and Darkmatters got what I meant. I don't see much on this forum other than Atheism vs. Theism. I mean in GENERAL... Palestine and Israel, Zionism vs. Non-Zionism, Hindus vs. Muslims (in India), Evangelicals vs. Mormons, the list can go on and on. |
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That's what happens when your way of life is absolutely and universally true as ordained by an infallible, almighty god. |
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But that only explains fundamentalists, not the majority of people. You'd think the majority of people would be more understanding... (I, for one, completely understand why someone would be atheist. I also totally get why someone would want the sense of community provided by a place of worship.) It's just frustrating. |
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It doesn't explain only fundamentalists. It explains anyone who's convinced that they know what their god(s) want(s) excepting the cases where they believe their god wants them to be accepting and considerate and recognize the limits of their intellect but this is unfortunately not always the case. |
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In my experience, the only people who DO think this way are fundamentalists (including fundamentalist atheists). Those are atheists that are atheist because THEY believe that you have to be a fundamentalist to be a part of a religion. Basically "atheists by dissociation/disbelief of fundamentalism." |
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It's really not. Try asking some religious people about god and they'll probably have quite a bit to tell you. "god wants this, god said that, etc." It doesn't matter if such beliefs come from the literal word of the Bible or are somehow abstractly inferred. |
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Well said, though I must confess that in the liberal area in which I live (hint: it starts with a "New" and ends with an "England"), I barely ever meet a non-fundamentalist who acts in any way different from an atheist on a practical level. So while the fundies will be all like, "Jesus said so it must be", the more open minded chaps on both the atheist and theist sides only butt heads when it's consented to and the people are in a genuine discussion or debate on the more theology-oriented theological issues, like "is there a god" or "which god is it" as opposed to the less theology-based theological issues, like "is abortion murder?" |
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As a whole, human beings are the most intelligent species alive but still have animal tendencies. Many aggrandize religion and fight about because it is so easy to do; few pursue the universal wisdom for its own sake. |
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Religions have used force and coercion to control people. People are pisssssssssssed. |
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Pretty much. |
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My beef is on a few levels. I'd say the biggest, most important level is that religious dogma should have absolutely NOTHING to do with politics, and we MUST fight it. In the US, the religious right has been trying to push their sickening agenda of "intelligent design" and "abstinence-only sex ed" and whatever other idiotic drivel there is for a long time, and it's really doing nothing more than harm our progress as a society. Some people would love to live in a theocracy like they have in certain locations today, and that's a frightening thought. |
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I don't have any fundamentalist friends except one, and she's very understanding and open to other's opinions anyways. I'm in an extremely... I guess "moderate" town, religiously open but politically red. It's an odd combination, but I rarely hear people who AREN'T fundamentalists saying that homosexuality is bad. Must be location more than belief. |
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