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      Ayahuasca

      Does anyone know anything about Ayahuasca? I'm not someone who has ever felt inclined to try anything drug or alcohol related.

      Have to admit though the little I've read about this one implies it has potential to cure addictions people may have, isn't addictive itself and is only associated with long term psychological benefits.

      The suggestion it open up new pathways too leads me to suspect it may have benefits to other conditions. Ie autism spectrum?

      Sadly as far as I can gather its illegal here in the UK so can't really ask peeps around here.

      Not sure about the religious connection though. Seems there are church groups that use it from reading the articles online. You'd have thought that would cover the legality under religious rights
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      It's illegal pretty much all over. Or at least the extraction of DMT is. There isn't actually any DMT in Ayahuasca so it should be legal. It just has the monamine oxidase inhibitor that allows DMT to pass from the digestive tract into the brain. It needs to be combined with DMT.

      DMT is awesome. Used in moderation of course. I've only ever smoked it though I do have the "permanant and ongoing" option of eating some any time I like.

      Mescaline is cool too. I just ate some good San Pedro for the first time the other day and it was incredible. Shrooms? I laught at them after taking a heroic dose and ask if that's all they've got. LSD? The same.

      A moderate dose of San Pedro pushed me down in the dirt and made fun of me. It was love at first sight.

      The main thing about all of these things is that they don't put anything in your brain that's not already there. So in respecting them you have to respect yourself to tell yourself the truth. Can you do that?
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      I don't have any experience yet but I can point you towards a good source of information and informed opinions.

      https://www.dmt-nexus.me/

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      I've smoked DMT a number of times, but not used Ayahuasca. I'd like to one day, but I'm currently on a psychedelic hiatus, plus I'm on some medicine so I'm iffy about taking anything with MAOI activity. It's a very interesting drug.

      Quote Originally Posted by PhilosopherStoned View Post
      It's illegal pretty much all over. Or at least the extraction of DMT is. There isn't actually any DMT in Ayahuasca so it should be legal. It just has the monamine oxidase inhibitor that allows DMT to pass from the digestive tract into the brain. It needs to be combined with DMT.

      DMT is awesome. Used in moderation of course. I've only ever smoked it though I do have the "permanant and ongoing" option of eating some any time I like.

      Mescaline is cool too. I just ate some good San Pedro for the first time the other day and it was incredible. Shrooms? I laught at them after taking a heroic dose and ask if that's all they've got. LSD? The same.

      A moderate dose of San Pedro pushed me down in the dirt and made fun of me. It was love at first sight.

      The main thing about all of these things is that they don't put anything in your brain that's not already there. So in respecting them you have to respect yourself to tell yourself the truth. Can you do that?
      I think you should probably clarify. There isn't any DMT in Ayahuasca as the vine, but most people who talk about it (at the very least, people who aren't already pretty educated about it) refer to the mixed brew, and they're not wrong either.

      I haven't had the fortune to try mescaline, though I'd very much like to one day. I prefer mushrooms and LSD to DMT, personally. I feel that mushrooms speak through the same language that DMT does, with the difference being that mushrooms speak about you personally (connect you to your subconscious), while DMT speaks about the rest of the universe. LSD is more of a pleasure psychedelic, in my experience. It connects you to your desires. I guess I'm just at a point in my life where I'm looking for the personal experiences right now. DMT is wonderful and intense, but I always come out of it feeling like I've wasted my time. It's an amazing experience, but it's just not what I'm looking for. But I digress....

      Quote Originally Posted by IndieAnthias View Post
      I don't have any experience yet but I can point you towards a good source of information and informed opinions.

      https://www.dmt-nexus.me/
      I'd be careful about the Nexus, the staff is fairly corrupt. They say a lot of things about vendors and members who talk about those vendors to support people who are backing them and slander people who aren't. They also seem to take out their stress on members they don't like. DMT trip reports are probably fine, especially since they're contributed by regular members. But I wouldn't pay attention to much that they say about anything but direct DMT information.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Alyzarin View Post
      I'd be careful about the Nexus, the staff is fairly corrupt. They say a lot of things about vendors and members who talk about those vendors to support people who are backing them and slander people who aren't. They also seem to take out their stress on members they don't like. DMT trip reports are probably fine, especially since they're contributed by regular members. But I wouldn't pay attention to much that they say about anything but direct DMT information.
      Thanks for the heads-up, I've just begun nosing around that site lately. I've seen the suppliers forum but haven't quite gotten to that stage of consideration yet.

      I would venture that unless the staff is blatantly suppressing the exchange of information, that it's still a decent forum.
      Last edited by IndieAnthias; 03-04-2012 at 02:19 AM.
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      Quote Originally Posted by IndieAnthias View Post
      Thanks for the heads-up, I've just begun nosing around that site lately. I've seen the suppliers forum but haven't quite gotten to that stage of consideration yet.

      I would venture that unless the staff is blatantly suppressing the exchange of information, that it's still a decent forum.
      It is a decent forum, most of the members after all are still just normal members. I just would take everything with a grain of salt. Like I said, trip reports are generally fine. Basically the best advice I could give is that if they try to tell you a certain site is supplying a certain chemical, or that certain lesser known plants or chemicals have certain effects, don't believe it unless you've verified it for yourself. But overall, it's not like the whole site is out to get you or anything.
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