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      God Created the Stars in How Many Days?

      I have heard God created the stars on the "third" day. Science tells us that stars are still being born. What gives?

      Also, it seems as though Satan could be running the show rather than God. I can't believe God would create a world with people, especially people he loves, and then turn the show over to Satan. That doesn't make sense.

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      You're saying the Bible could be inaccurate?

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      A literal approach, certainly.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      You're saying the Bible could be inaccurate?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      You're saying the Bible could be inaccurate?
      I don't know if inaccurate is the term I would use. I would say it is somewhere between the 5 lb bag and the 10 lbs of fertilizer that was crammed into it.

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      A literal approach, certainly.
      Original Poster,

      Are you saying that the third day may not actually be over, or that the bible should not be taken literally, both, or neither?
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      It took god four days to make the earth and put the water on it and make living animals and stuff. Yet he created all the stars in one day? The key to understanding how the earth took 4 times longer to create than the entire universe comes from the last day when he rested.

      Clearly God is a pot user and is lazy and slow in making the world, he was taking his sweet old time in doing everything. Of course god ran out of pot mid week so he borrowed some cocaine and got some work done that day.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Alric View Post
      It took god four days to make the earth and put the water on it and make living animals and stuff. Yet he created all the stars in one day? The key to understanding how the earth took 4 times longer to create than the entire universe comes from the last day when he rested.

      Clearly God is a pot user and is lazy and slow in making the world, he was taking his sweet old time in doing everything. Of course god ran out of pot mid week so he borrowed some cocaine and got some work done that day.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Original Poster View Post
      A literal approach, certainly.
      Do you not feel the bible should be taken literally? Seriously--I'd like to know.

      It seems that in the short time this has been posted, I've stumped everyone. I'll let this simmer for a few days/weeks and see if anyone can explain this phenomenon.
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      I was joking around before but it is actually easy to understand. The people who wrote the bible believed the earth was the center of the universe and that the earth was vastly more complex and expansive than space was. Which is why creating all of space didn't even take a single day, creating the stars was actually a side note.

      So to answer your question, it is just a plot hole because the people writing the bible had no clue what they were talking about.

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      This probably wasn't meant seriously. But creation of stars at the beginning does nothing to show that there wouldn't be more formed in the future.

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      Quote Originally Posted by The Sandman View Post
      I have heard God created the stars on the "third" day. Science tells us that stars are still being born. What gives?

      Also, it seems as though Satan could be running the show rather than God. I can't believe God would create a world with people, especially people he loves, and then turn the show over to Satan. That doesn't make sense.

      Just my thoughts.
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      This is it guys, finally we've found the one core piece of the Bible that is inconsistent with what we observe in our world, and thus disproven Christianity as a whole. Let's all take a moment to thank The Sandman for his efforts.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Alric View Post
      I was joking around before but it is actually easy to understand. The people who wrote the bible believed the earth was the center of the universe and that the earth was vastly more complex and expansive than space was. Which is why creating all of space didn't even take a single day, creating the stars was actually a side note.

      So to answer your question, it is just a plot hole because the people writing the bible had no clue what they were talking about.
      Except qualitatively the Earth is far more complex than stars...

      This criticism really makes no sense.

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      I understand why it would take longer to make the Earth. That's why I stayed away from that argument. Life could take a very long time. Of course, that would show that God is not omnipotent or else it could have all been thought of and accomplished with a thought.

      Here's the thing. Every time I make the mistake of giving religion a moment of my time, I think of how the religious dismiss things like the Sandyhook Elementary shooting as having nothing to do with God. That was somebody else, but when I bust my ass to create something, I should give thanks to God.

      Science sends people to space and creates the Hadron Collider. Religion passes the plate and tells people what they believe. Even Jesus' own desciples weren't convinced when they went out in some boat. His own mother didn't have faith. She has an immaculate conception (yea right), and doesn't have faith that they can have wine at the wedding. Besides, so what if there's no wine. Isn't water good enough? Woman, what am I to do with you?

      We have achieved temperatures colder than absolute 0. Very strange. Religion has spawned war after war. Again, as stated in my first post, Satan could be running this show. I don't need GOD to live in a world with people who hurt children.

      Why should I have faith?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      Except qualitatively the Earth is far more complex than stars...

      This criticism really makes no sense.
      Earth is more complex than any star, but is is far less complex than the rest of the universe as a whole. There are no telling how many individual planets that are more complex than Earth. That is why the idea that God spent more time creating Earth than the rest of the universe is so WTF.
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      That's probably true, it's just that Alric didn't say that, he said 'stars'.

      I appreciate the important point, which is that the Bible is clearly pictures a much smaller and anthropocentric universe than is really the case.

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      I said 'stars' because that is what the bible says and the bible doesn't know what stars are they just think they are little dots in the sky. There is no mention of anything else in space because they weren't even aware of the stuff existing.
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      The Bible states "in the begining God created the Heavens and Earth." The Heaven's consist of stars, so stars were created in the beginning not on the 3rd day. Stars were visible for the first time on the 3rd day from Earth but not created on day 3.

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      Why were they only visible on the third day?

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      The Earth consists of water and land and yet on the first day it was "formless and empty". I don't see what precludes the heavens being formless and empty, either.

      In any case it's hard to see why somebody would have a positive opinion about the ambiguity.

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      Hold up, guys. I just dusted off my old bible, and this is what I found;

      "[On the fourth day] God made two great lights-- the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars."

      Huh.

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      Quote Originally Posted by SnowyCat View Post
      Hold up, guys. I just dusted off my old bible, and this is what I found;

      "[On the fourth day] God made two great lights-- the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars."

      Huh.
      1. That sounds very much like it made all the stars. The Bible doesn't say it made "some" of the stars; it just says "the stars." This implies none were left out, but again, stars are constantly being formed.

      2. Also, by "great light," surely they were referring to the center of a galaxy. That is much brighter than a sun.

      3. Also, the sun is just a star. Why identify them as separate things? Could it be because it was written by man, and God was channeling on Cable while whomever was on one of the major networks?

      4. On that note, other stars are suns, and many are much "greater lights." Only our proximity makes the sun appear greater. OK. I'll give you the fact that we as people may refer to the closer, less bright "sun" as the great light, but galaxies are much brighter, and there is no mention of them...only stars. Are they not worthy of mention?
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      Quote Originally Posted by The Sandman View Post
      1. That sounds very much like it made all the stars. The Bible doesn't say it made "some" of the stars; it just says "the stars." This implies none were left out, but again, stars are constantly being formed.

      2. Also, by "great light," surely they were referring to the center of a galaxy. That is much brighter than a sun.

      3. Also, the sun is just a star. Why identify them as separate things? Could it be because it was written by man, and God was channeling on Cable while whomever was on one of the major networks?

      4. On that note, other stars are suns, and many are much "greater lights." Only our proximity makes the sun appear greater. OK. I'll give you the fact that we as people may refer to the closer, less bright "sun" as the great light, but galaxies are much brighter, and there is no mention of them...only stars. Are they not worthy of mention?
      1. Perhaps included in "the stars" is the material needed to make new stars; "He made the formation of stars possible"?

      2. Since when does the center of a galaxy "govern the day"? It is unarguably referring to the sun.

      I don't have a response for 3-4; it's been a while since I've attempted to interpret the bible.

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      Quote Originally Posted by SnowyCat View Post
      1. Perhaps included in "the stars" is the material needed to make new stars; "He made the formation of stars possible"?

      2. Since when does the center of a galaxy "govern the day"? It is unarguably referring to the sun.

      I don't have a response for 3-4; it's been a while since I've attempted to interpret the bible.

      1. Perhaps? That's good. That's fine. It tells me something completely different. It tells me that the bible is not clear, or at a minimum can not be taken literally. Since it can not be taken literally, I have little use for it. People have interpreted the bible in different directions because they don't feel it can be taken literally. This has led to endless killing. I don't like killing religions, hence, I don't like Christianity.

      2. I don't know the bible that well. Of course a galaxy does not govern the day, so nix that. That's fine.

      3 and 4? No prob. Maybe someone else can comment.
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