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      Who is the experiencer ?

      Imagine if you can ask yourself several times a day and allow your intuition to unfold and experience : « who is the experiencer ? », « who is feeling / thinking/ experiencing this ? »..

      when you feel a powerful emotion, but also when you see a child smile, when you feel inner contentment, ultimately just to remember and acknowledge your inner being, higher self, God, Rigpa...


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      Observing the observer...

      The ultimate ADA
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      Quote Originally Posted by VagalTone View Post
      ...when you see a child smile...

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      Quote Originally Posted by NyxCC View Post
      Observing the observer...

      The ultimate ADA
      Yup, i think so too. Nice you had realized that.

      But words are so tricky: is there really an observer ? that is the challenge, to look directly, nakedly, without any conceptualization, to glimpse the true nature of mind
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      I agree. Silencing the mind and gently observing can do wonders.

      Here is an interesting thing that happened to me recently. I was at a music performance of a friend of mine. We discussed the whole thing afterwards and I compared the way everyone has experienced the event.

      The performer thought it was ok for the time they had to prepare, he was also having some stage fever, although I could see he merged himself with the music quite well.

      One of my friends had the task to record with a camera, so most of the time he just concentrated the camera on our musician friend and not that much on the rest of orchestra. He was very pissed about a woman who was in front him moving and spoiling the pics.

      Another friend of mine concentrated on finding things that were wrong with the performance, like the music selection, the behavior of one of the musicians, the clothes that a guy wore.

      Initially, I was perceiving the performance visually. I just sat there watching the musicians as they played, looking at them and not hearing much. I also felt a bit uneasy on my seat, because I haven't been invited to watch young (20+) musicians perform and was not sure how to naturally react to show support. I wasn't too interested apart for showing up and listening to my friend. But soon all that changed. I stopped looking and set my eyes to rest at a mid point of the stage and let my ears take over. I shut down any thoughts and just listened. The music was fantastic and everybody was in good synchronicity with it. They played several pieces.

      When I was looking with my mind on, I saw there was a girl that I though was irritating because of her stage behavior, her moving was too much, she was making all kinds of faces. But when I silenced my mind, I understood she was really experiencing the music and this was just her body moving along. One of the pieces they played was rather lengthy and boring, but then I saw how the four pianists perfectly fit the parts of the melody. The fidgeting girl played the lively part as if she was that musical tone, the other serious guy was playing the more monotonous part. Everything was perfect, everything was merged in one.

      I wasn't looking at the performance nor was I listening to it anymore, I was experiencing something else. With a quiet mind another kind of observer came out to look at the performance and saw a truly indescribable event.
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      I've had one 'observer' experience in my life. It was a weekend day I had off, I woke up around 1pm. A mate came to my house because he wanted to smoke some weed, so we did. However, I forgot to eat and I didn't drink. It was a bit too much for me and I went bad. I observed the world like never before, there was no biasing involved. That's what it felt like to me, it felt like I was watching a movie. Perhaps my mind was playing tricks on me, who knows. I won't forget that experience though. I quickly ate something and drank a lot of water and all was well.

      Well, never again for me. lmao
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      Quote Originally Posted by Athylus View Post
      I've had one 'observer' experience in my life. It was a weekend day I had off, I woke up around 1pm. A mate came to my house because he wanted to smoke some weed, so we did. However, I forgot to eat and I didn't drink. It was a bit too much for me and I went bad. I observed the world like never before, there was no biasing involved. That's what it felt like to me, it felt like I was watching a movie. Perhaps my mind was playing tricks on me, who knows. I won't forget that experience though. I quickly ate something and drank a lot of water and all was well.

      Well, never again for me. lmao
      Well, drugs can surely be interesting gateways to spiritual journeys.

      The really interesting part, i guess, is when you understand that you can´t separate experience from experiencer. It´s a nonduality moment.

      Science, for instance, shows that you can´t perceive anything without mind being involved in it. So whatever you experience is inseparable from your own mind ( a little bit dreamlike )
      Check your memory, did any suprising event happpen ? does the present make sense ? visualize what you will do when lucid, and how. Reality check as reminder of your intention to lucid dream tonight. Sleep as good as you can; when going to sleep, relax and invite whatever comes with curiosity. Grab your dream journal immediately as you awake and write everything you can recall (if only when you wake up for good). Keep calm, positive and persistent, and don't forget to have fun along the way

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