Of course he could, but that being the case, where would there be room for his creations to learn and grow? |
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Yes, I am beating a horse, but the horse is not dead until this issue has been set totally straight, and I think we are far from that. I recently started a thread titled "Is God bound by any laws of reality?" after not getting my issue cleared up in the other threads. Even that thread didn't get my issue concerning God's existence fully addressed. I only got one yes/no answer to it from a theist, and it was from Awaken. It was several pages before I could finally get that out of him. |
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How do you know you are not dreaming right now?
Of course he could, but that being the case, where would there be room for his creations to learn and grow? |
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you must be the change you wish to see in the world...
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How do you know you are not dreaming right now?
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Universal Mind, You've used the "But God is meant to be infinitely powerful" route on at least 2 other debates |
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It's very popular to justify suffering to show that we learn and grow from them, but that's in this dimension and this universe. But if God was infinite, why couldn't he have created a universe with the required "laws" and such that can set the stage for a life without suffering? This is something religionists cannot answer, and that I often hold something against the "divine." But...since the horse is already dead, I don't think there is much more I can add. |
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naturals are what we call people who did all the right things accidentally
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Yes, he could........But why would he? |
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Becuase I choose to...
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Brady has the point I was implying. Why couldn't have God bended the laws of the universe to make a life system where everything was perfect? Where improvement wasn't necessary, and where the capacity for boredom wouldn't be present? (to the people who insist on change) A system where mistakes weren't necessary to learn? Too often, people only look within the limitations we currently have. For the sake of acceptance, I agree with doing that, but logically, it is unanswerable. |
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naturals are what we call people who did all the right things accidentally
I realised something today. I haven't suffered in my life. No-one I know has been raped, murdered, tornadoe'd, flood'd, got a terminal disease, etc. No-one has tried to make me suffer, no-one has expected me to suffer - yet I've grown fine. If I can develop in to a perfectly normal 20 year old without suffering, how is suffering a requirement for developing? |
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How do you know you are not dreaming right now?
I think a key issue is being ignored here, and I'm going to try to illustrate it. Forgive me for not stating my bias up-front; I don't know what it is yet. I'll tell you in a minute, I might ramble. |
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Well, I was on that side of the argument just because it was intellectually more demanding. But of course, realistically, I won't expect to live outside of a reality of suffering. Life is suffering, but it's also pleasure. I don't know if you need bad to experience good, but the bad definately will help you appreciate the good. |
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naturals are what we call people who did all the right things accidentally
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How do you know you are not dreaming right now?
Will there be suffering in Heaven? Will there be temptation to do evil and/or wrong things in Heaven? Will we still possess whatever negative charateristics that we possess here on Earth? |
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To answer the question; I say yes. And now for my 2 cents: |
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Do you seriously think that blood is the only thing in this world that is colored red?
~Raised by OpheliaBlue~
I can't believe I hadn't responded to this yet. |
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Now permanently residing at [The] Danny Phantom Online [Community], under the name Mabaroshiwoou.
Adopted OvErEchO, ndpendentlyhappy
Raised ShiningShadow
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naturals are what we call people who did all the right things accidentally
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How do you know you are not dreaming right now?
But with every step off of omnipotence, doesn't it reduce your desire to worship such an imperfect thang by like the square of the distance from omnipotence? |
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I don't want to hear about the brain from someone that doesn't have one.
Nor do I want to hear about evolution from someone that hasn't evolved.
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