The church as the true suppressor
Recently I had a disagreement that Leonardo Da Vinci was overrated. I became highly critical. For a number of reasons.
1. When something becomes mainstream (such as the Da vinci Code) it is often over thought and under worked. The mainstream jumps on like flies to a pile of shit. Leaving the true admirers frustrated, disheartened and saddened.
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A man who not only was brilliant artistically but had the innovative mind to conceive things way before there time. Things like hydraulics, clocks digging machines, swing bridges
Not to mention he was suppressed by the church and had been put under house arrest. If only he had been given funds and support maybe he could have finished some of his works.
By the way. That is a typical trait with a brilliant mind. They consistently critique their own work and are never satisfied. Usually never following through with something we would call remarkable. To them it is a failure.
Heaven forbid had the Church let the public become educated. They new that if that were to happen they would not be so easily brainwashed into believe the theatrics of their ways.
Keep them dumb and keep control.
The Church today has become civilized??? No not really. They still keep people under a Vail of conception. But because we have become a comfortable self sufficient society we have become complacent. With that complacency it allow us to put on a facade that we are more cultured and civilized. Civilized to the point that shooting a dog makes the headlines more than shooting a person. Is that civil?
There is so much to discuss in regards to the church and its oppression my mind is spinning. And that is not even the main topic.
Leonardo Da vinci. A man with several traits, not just a brilliant physicist or a master of design.
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[quote]There is so much to discuss in regards to the church and its oppression my mind is spinning. And that is not even the main topic. Leonardo Da vinci. A man with several traits, not just a brilliant physicist or a master of design.
I agree, Howetzer. Da Vinci is one of my heros too. His works are a rather imperfect window into a mind and soul that had a depth that could not be probed, I think.
The New Age will be one of "Light" I think, the spirit that Da Vinchi and many others who were filled with Light captured in their art, science and life's work. There was a purpose to struggling under the Jehovan concept of Order, but I think the future will be one of freedom and choice and in this I find a great hope of what may be.
While I don't like to critize Leo V, for he is an insightful and senstive man, one of the things that rubs me the wrong way is his badgering of others who do not hold the Catholic mindset.
What I mean by this is that the Catholic Church of today is not the same one as existed before those Renassance Men and Reformers. That the Catholics moan continually about the world going to hell in a handbasket is strange when you consider that their ranks are now filled with intelligent, free-thinking people who CHOOSE to worship in the Catholic fashion.
But there is a time and a place for all things. The organized religions have had their time and purpose but I think that it is time to explore new opportunities to take what we learned from the contemplative (ie. monastic) and hopeful centuries of the last Age and press forward in our exporation of reality and Truth.
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Originally posted by W.Stanford
I agree, Howetzer. Da Vinci is one of my heros too. His works are a rather imperfect window into a mind and soul that had a depth that could not be probed, I think.
The New Age will be one of \"Light\" I think, the spirit that Da Vinchi and many others who were filled with Light captured in their art, science and life's work. There was a purpose to struggling under the Jehovan concept of Order, but I think the future will be one of freedom and choice and in this I find a great hope of what may be.
While I don't like to critize Leo, for he is an insightful and senstive man, one of the things that rubs me the wrong way is his badgering of others who do not hold the Catholic mindset.
What I mean by this is that the Catholic Church of today is not the same one as existed before those Renassance Men and Reformers. That the Catholics moan continually about the world going to hell in a handbasket is strange when you consider that their ranks are now filled with intelligent, free-thinking people who CHOOSE to worship in the Catholic fashion.
But there is a time and a place for all things. The organized religions have had their time and purpose but I think that it is time to explore new opportunities to take what we learned from the contemplative (ie. monastic) and hopeful centuries of the last Age and press forward in our exporation of reality and Truth.
How did you know I was talking about Leo? :wink:
I still believe there is a lot of corruption today in Catholic church.
But you tend to only see the bad. So it would be similar to bash the catholic religion on the few bad things you here from the media that wants headlines. As to bash Da Vinci for not finishing a few paintings.