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      Christ: He's Back. Matraiya. Ram Bomjan Palden Dorje

      Christ: He’s Back!

      I’m certainly a Catholic, but I am glad that I have carefully been hedging my bets, as it seems that in these obvious End Times we are now experiencing the Coming Again of a Great Messiah, but not from where a good Catholic would at first expect, not from a Judeo/Christian Source. Apparently God learned His lesson there the last time. It appears that our Modern Messiah may come as the Matraiya Buddha. It may be that he is already here, and is now busy preparing himself for the role He will have to play.

      He is a young man of Nepal, sixteen years old, and his name is variously spelled: Ram Bomjon, Ram Bamjan, Ram Bomjan. His ‘Buddhist’ name is Palden Dorje. The media has been calling him the “Buddha Boy”. So far he is famous for having had not eaten or drank for some six months while in silent meditation.

      Of course, many people are skeptical when they hear of this, and the media only encourages such skepticism by reporting the story most marginally, partially and selectively – to please their modern skeptical and dismissive audiences. It is represented that Groups of Researchers are being consistently turned away. However, a more thoroughly researched account points to a great many verifications that the wider Media has been ignoring. Check this site: http://www.buddhadharma.com/Palden.html
      We find that the young man was a trained ascetic from a very young age, and has the endorsements of his local Guru, a famous and high ranking regional Guru, and a Committee of Holy Men who all suppose him to be the Matraiya Buddha in the making. Now I hate to reveal this about the Religious Character, but it certainly is far from common for the Old Men of any Religion to acknowledge any ascendancy or superiority in any Young Men of their Religion. It is more common, even ordinary, for the Old Men of Religion to have great contempt for youth. So it MUST be a great and significant endorsement that so many Religious Old Men are willing to surrender their claims of self importance and to take their positions behind and underneath this lad.

      Additionally, the Government of Nepal, in order to well regulate their own jurisdictions, sent a committee of nine specialists to study this New Matraiya, and they also came away with a solid endorsement.

      In this context, when a group of Secular Atheist Skeptics arrived, introducing themselves with a slurry of rude questions and a front of obnoxiousness, well, the people, already reassured by their own Holy Men to the satisfaction of their Religion, and already reassured by their own Government Researchers, to satisfy their modern sense of rationality, well, people saw no need for this redundant group of slandering atheists and chased them away without a second thought. The Media pretends that this only group that was rejected was the only group that ever applied. One wonders why the Media would be so reluctant to express just why the local populations were so thoroughly convinced while focusing only on the smallest group which was dissatisfied only because its hostility put them at the greatest distance from the event. Perhaps the Media thought that they could save words by reporting ignorance, as informed knowledge would take so many more columns.

      Here allow me to outline some of the details that the media choose rather to set aside. Besides the miraculous fasting (and any small town could soon uncover any fraud occurring there… as it would be no easy feat to sneak food miles into the jungle day after day without detection), there have been several Christ-like miracles. In two separate instances persons who were known to be dumb gained the ability to speak after having come into Our Young Lad’s presence. Then there has been the Wonder of the Lights – as the young Lad sits in meditation in the dark of night he glows in various colors – green at 10 o’clock, yellow by eleven, and the White Light at Midnight. Indeed, that Government Group that investigated, shot a video in which they recorded lights going in and coming out of the Our Young Buddha.

      It was reported lately that Our Young Man went missing, but it was subsequently reported that he had only become concerned about the growing carnival atmosphere around the tree in which he was meditating. Several snake bites and then a mysterious fire at this one location were enough to convince Our Buddha in Becoming to pick up and find a better place to finish his Six Year Meditation. You see, on May 16th 2005 he had announced that he would need to complete a six year course of Meditation. So, as yet, he has only just less then one year completed of this six year program. And, again, incidentally, we are handed one more occurrence to reinforce the Big Picture View that the Essential End Time Episode will occur in 2012.

      Now, as a personal observation, yes, I think this Young Man will be the Second Coming of Christ, the Modern Messiah, the Matraiya Buddha. But He is not there yet. He has just the blend of vanity and humility that makes for Spiritual Greatness. He would not cut his hair with the rest of his Monkish Fellows while on pilgrimage (having a head of gloriously thick hair), and now He is the only one of his district to suppose Himself to NOT be of the stuff of a Buddha, but claims nothing more than Lama status, being a ‘Rinpoche’, or a Bodhisattva -- all while the Old Experts are saying “Yeah, yeah, sure sure” but nonetheless expect the highest things from this Young Man. Indeed, about 7 months into His meditation, his brother heard him saying that to capture his attention he must be addressed with the Mantra “OM NAMO BUDDHA GYANI”, which is the local patois for the Sanskrit AUM NAMO BUDDHA JNANI – it is a Mantra addressing the Enlightened Buddha. What can we infer? Well, the World now has its Caterpillar in the process of becoming the Butterfly. It took 40 days of fasting in the Wilderness to make a Messiah. It will take 6 years of fasting in the Jungle to give us a Matraiya. Now, we must consider that these things are never entirely preordained. We only need to review the disastrous end results of the Messiah’s short curtailed career to see that these things do not necessarily always work out for the best. So, for this new Young Matraiya, we should all probably pitch in at the level of the Collective Consciousness and wish, pray, and meditate for his support. Add our fasts and whatever penances we do for his benefit and progress. Perhaps this popular support at the root level will make all the difference later on when the elite classes of our Societies will deliberate on crucifying Him as well. Humanity must stand behind this Matraiya, this Messiah, this Time, or again we might lose out and then have to wait another two thousand years for our next slim opportunity.

      Anyway, I would suggest we all take up a small ritualistic practice for the next six years, of several times a day repeating a few times “AUM NAMO BUDDHA JNANI” or “OM NAMO BUDDHA GYANI”. And then to wish our Young Man luck and good fortune. He may be our last and best chance. Just envision the possibility that this Young Matraiya could forge the link that joins Humanity to Divinity – the link that joins the Collective Consciousness to the Divine Consciousness. He might be the One Spark that will start the Universal Fire. Like those Knowledgeable Holy Men of Nepal, lets all swallow our pride and get behind this young man.

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      Haha this is so cool.

      See if he can heal real people.

      Even thouh you probably will stick with your idea that the kid is the new jesus, allmost all christians will not, and in 100 years no one will remember him.

      Both ways, christ is a pankster.
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      I find it very amusing that you have to set the media up as a bunch of conspiring atheists before you make your claims. Are you forgetting that nearly 90% of the world still believes in god?
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      On the contrary, they only say they do.
      naturals are what we call people who did all the right things accidentally

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      Originally posted by bradybaker
      I find it very amusing that you have to set the media up as a bunch of conspiring atheists before you make your claims. Are you forgetting that nearly 90% of the world still believes in god?
      well, true buddhists are atheists...the vast majority of christians, jews, muslims, etc would not be quick to transfer the highest spiritual prowess onto a young boy who does not acknowledge jesus, or moses, or mohammed, or whichever leader they revere, as above him...


      “If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas.” (or better yet: three...)
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      No theory, no ready-made system, no book that has ever been written will save the world. I cleave to no system. I am a true seeker. - Mikhail Bakunin

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      Leo Volont, a human is just that a human. There are some capable of great good and some capable of great evil. Either way this man is a human and whatever reason he is there can be missplaced by the people. What is funny about humanity is we place our values in idealism. We need something to believe in to overcome great difficulties. There is a old saying beware of false prophets. Do not just believe in something because you do not understand, but try to better understand why you have the need to believe.

      If this person has acheived greater wisedom then personally I would like to meet him myself.

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      Originally posted by AHiddenSaint
      Leo Volont, a human is just that a human. There are some capable of great good and some capable of great evil. Either way this man is a human and whatever reason he is there can be missplaced by the people. What is funny about humanity is we place our values in idealism. We need something to believe in to overcome great difficulties. There is a old saying beware of false prophets. Do not just believe in something because you do not understand, but try to better understand why you have the need to believe.

      If this person has acheived greater wisedom then personally I would like to meet him myself.
      lol.

      And jesus wasn't a fake prophet becouse?

      That's like the most contradicting thing anyone ever said as a christian.
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      I wonder though, in these times, even if he was what you claim him to be, that will not change anything.

      All this time, he would have been meditating and 'collecting enlighted wisdom' sort to say, but what good is this really going to do? The majority of the people is not even going to listen, or believe him for that matter. There are plenty of wise and 'enlightened' individuals in this world but they can't show us all the way. We all have to find our own way and our wisdom and enlightment. That's not something that can be given. We can't possibly place our hands in a saint or a 'messiah'. On top of that, like I said, there is plenty of 'enlightened' individuals out there that know you don't need to meditate for months to figure out simple spirituality. So rather than relying on a messiah or even those 'enlightened individuals' we should try look inside of ourselves instead 8)

      Unless he will really perform a miracle nothing will change in the 'normal world'. And if he would perform real miracles, this wouldn't be right either as this would cause people to flock and follow, mindlessly. That's not the goal of an enlightened soul, I'd say.

      I'm happy for him if he can achieve great peace and inner love, and if he gives hope to a lot of people that's fine as well. But people should really walk their own path and look inside of themselves for truth. Love is there for everybody. And we can feel it without a messiah.

      In any case, if he does turn out to be wise and enlightened, then I hope he will help a lot of people with that wisdom
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      I do belive he is having a conection to the whole... I also belive that as he progress more people over the world will start to feel that conection... I fealt the conection to the whole... About 7months ago... If only for a breefmoment... Only 2 or 3 seconds... Braking that conection was the worst thing that I had to go trough in my life... at sevral ocations I considerd taking my life and every now and then that idea still pops in to my head... But I got 2 very clear messages: We apreciate your patiens. No excuse for abuse.

      What was the conection like? Imagine a box that is in the midle of the ocean. In that box is a fishbowl. In this fishbowl is the entire world you know, all your friends, family, earth. One day you accedently jump out of the box and experiance the ocean... Then you get put back in to the box...

      What is coming is not going to leave anyone out as we are all one.

      What is coming is going to be the most amazing thing earth has ever fealt...

      What is coming is accelerating...

      This is what I belive from what I have experianced.

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      Originally posted by Raz
      I do belive he is having a conection to the whole... I also belive that as he progress more people over the world will start to feel that conection... I fealt the conection to the whole... About 7months ago... If only for a breefmoment... Only 2 or 3 seconds... Braking that conection was the worst thing that I had to go trough in my life... at sevral ocations I considerd taking my life and every now and then that idea still pops in to my head... But I got 2 very clear messages: We apreciate your patiens. No excuse for abuse.

      What was the conection like? Imagine a box that is in the midle of the ocean. In that box is a fishbowl. In this fishbowl is the entire world you know, all your friends, family, earth. One day you accedently jump out of the box and experiance the ocean... Then you get put back in to the box...

      What is coming is not going to leave anyone out as we are all one.

      What is coming is going to be the most amazing thing earth has ever fealt...

      What is coming is accelerating...

      This is what I belive from what I have experianced.
      LOLOLOLOL
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      Originally posted by Raz+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Raz)</div>
      I do belive he is having a conection to the whole... I also belive that as he progress more people over the world will start to feel that conection... I fealt the conection to the whole... About 7months ago... If only for a breefmoment... Only 2 or 3 seconds... Braking that conection was the worst thing that I had to go trough in my life... at sevral ocations I considerd taking my life and every now and then that idea still pops in to my head... But I got 2 very clear messages: We apreciate your patiens. No excuse for abuse.

      What was the conection like? Imagine a box that is in the midle of the ocean. In that box is a fishbowl. In this fishbowl is the entire world you know, all your friends, family, earth. One day you accedently jump out of the box and experiance the ocean... Then you get put back in to the box...

      What is coming is not going to leave anyone out as we are all one.

      What is coming is going to be the most amazing thing earth has ever fealt...

      What is coming is accelerating...

      This is what I belive from what I have experianced.[/b]
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      LOLOLOLOL
      Well, at least he experienced something positive because of it so far, right? It might seem like a fake or unreal to a lot of us.. but hey, if people actually find good things because of him.. then, that makes me happy ^_^

      I highly doubt the entire world is going to miraculously change, that would be too much all of a sudden. (and too good to be true =P). But still, if this guy can bring inner peace and something positive to a lot of people then hey.. cool

      I still say people can find whatever they can find without a 'messiah' or anything like that
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      The Bible itself saids that we should not concern ourselves about when the messiah shall return. We are to prepare ourselves without that knowledge. When the time is right he will reveal himself to the world. If this young boy is the messiah it will be known for sure in due time. A huge part of being a Christian is to learn to become un-selfish and to learn how to serve and help others. Which in itself is opposite of human nature. We by nature are selfish the moment we are born. Most of our goals and ambitions revolve around how to make ourselves more comfortable in this life. If one is concerned about the return of the messiah they should stop and evaluate where their priorities lie. As Lucius said many may chose not the believe in or follow teachings of the return of a messiah. That is a decision a person must make for themselves. As a Christian my job is to have information ready for those who want it and interested in learning more, and being a servant to those in need.

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      Originally posted by Neruo


      lol.

      And jesus wasn't a fake prophet becouse?

      That's like the most contradicting thing anyone ever said as a christian.
      Who ever said I was a average Christian? I've always said I'm a Christian by belief which is different from believing the religous aspect of it. I've also learned a lot from buddhism. Some of my best friends are jewish as well. I wouldn't mind studying the koran as well because I'm pretty sure it would be a interesting read.

      I'm not the smartest of person, but one thing I have learned is to be honest with myself. Being good doesn't mean you worship something and it automatically makes you good. Being a good person means you are willing to believe in people, You are willing to understand you aren't the only one in this world, you are willing to learn from others, you are willing to respect people because we are all children of humanity.

      What's funny if anyone had a reason to seek revenge on people it would be me. Nobody has shown me respect in my family, i was scared to death someone would bring physical harm to me at school, my parents have shown more love to my brother and sister then they have me. Whats funny for the long part I was very suicidal. It was during that period reflected on my ownself and saught a inner peace that I couldn't receive from just anyone.

      Instead of turning my anger and confusion towards those who hurt me I develope my own methods of meditation. I also took a vow that I wouldn't harm anyone no matter what. Those times might have brought me near death and they may have been painful, but for all it's worth I wouldn't change the me that I am now for the world. I've learned a great deal of respect for others. I've found friends that I can call family. I may still have my own problems today, but nothing can come close to the happiness that I have found. When I actually do die I will not regret my life and I'm proud of the people I have meet.

      Society as a whole might produce bad results every now and then, but we are still people who can change the world. Each one of us has the power to effect another in a good way and a bad way through their actions. Have you ever thought about how many lives you effect on a small scale? In all truth isn't this what we live for?

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      Re: Christ: He's Back. Matraiya. Ram Bomjan Palden Dorje

      (having a head of gloriously thick hair)[/b]
      Lol.
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      Originally posted by Neruo


      LOLOLOLOL
      I would not blame anyone for laughing at that last post. Hell, I would have joined in a year ago


      Interesting how things can change...

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      Originally posted by Neruo
      Haha this is so cool.

      See if he can heal real people.

      Even thouh you probably will stick with your idea that the kid is the new jesus, allmost all christians will not, and in 100 years no one will remember him.

      Both ways, christ is a pankster.
      People remember.

      We still have Ramakrishna Organizations a hundred years after Ramakrishna. We still have groups devoted to Sai Baba of Shirdi, and he died in 1918.

      Anyway, the New Kid is starting off well enough... "making all the right moves" spiritually. He is not in any hurry, and left the Carnival Atmosphere, sensing that it was only going to trivialize his Quest to be so public. Retiring into the Forest for these years of Meditation will lend an expectancy and a sense of anticipation. Even now he is capable of Miracles, and even now he already has the Spiritual Elite of Nepal, and perhaps the entire Himalayan Region (Tibet, Kashmir, Northern India) firmly squared away behind him. Certainly he is ALREADY a Great Spiritual Presence -- we only need compare him to the Dalai Lama who carries so much weight in the spiritual community when all anyone knows for sure of him is that he has a fine taste for liquor and cigars. In that Context, this Young Man has a sterling Future.

      Also, though he is out of the Buddhist Traditions of the Himalayan Mountains, having the name of Ram certainly will not hurt him with the Hindus, as 'Ram' is their primary name for any Avataric Personality. The Kid could not have set up his career any better had he planned it.

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      Originally posted by bradybaker
      I find it very amusing that you have to set the media up as a bunch of conspiring atheists before you make your claims. Are you forgetting that nearly 90% of the world still believes in god?
      Which 90%? And then you must separate the Antichrists from the Christs. You can't say that Protestants believe in God, since they firstly believe most in their Sin, and then they only believe in their Book, and then they no longer believe in Miracles, and they are instructed to distrust Angels. Indeed, by any such description, they are more Satanic than Godly. Certainly you are not suggesting that Satanists be grouped with Religionists in your count toward 90%.

      Besides, the Chinese are no longer solidly religious. Most Western Europeans are openly secular. American secularists, even if they pretend to protestantism, reveal themselves truly in their secular stance in every decision they make in life.

      So, I find your 90% preposterous.

      But then, we need to look at the Media. Is not the Media collected into just a very few hands? We have secular Governments controlling some Media Markets, and Rupert Murdock controlling all the others... oh, and there is Ted Turner... big difference.

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      Bradybaker said that 90% of people still believe in God by their own admission. He did not say that 90% of people believe in your narrow definition of God, Leo.
      “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”
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      Originally posted by wombing


      well, true buddhists are atheists...the vast majority of christians, jews, muslims, etc would not be quick to transfer the highest spiritual prowess onto a young boy who does not acknowledge jesus, or moses, or mohammed, or whichever leader they revere, as above him...
      "True" Buddhists?

      You mean 'original' Buddhists. You cannot blame the Better Buddhists because they allowed themselves to be reformed by the moral infusions of the Higher Moral Religions.

      So, is the only 'True" car a slow noisy Model T piece of crap, or would we now allow the latest BMW's or even Toyota's?

      What of 'True' airplanes? Does a 'true' airplane have to held together by spruse struts and chicken wire, or are we allowed to call a new Airbus 321 an 'Airplane'.

      Indeed, Mahayana Buddhism only improved upon the original amoral atheistic formula. We can see this to the extent that Mahayana Buddhism has had the Sponsorship of God shown in the number and quality of the Mahayana Saints. The amoral and atheist Hinayana Traditions have only their dusty books and their status, appreciated only by the ignorant, of being the 'true' Buddhists'.


      Also, regarding the larger point of discussing vast majorities of followers of other religions. Well, the vast majorities are no important. They never have been. Most people are followers. The people who are of importance here are the Leaders and Innovators. We don't need to convert Vast Majorities of any Religion. We only have to worry about the people who will appear on Oprah. The unthinking Massing will follow, eventually, whatever way their institutions turn, and it is the Thoughtful Minorities that hold sway there.

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      Originally posted by AHiddenSaint
      Leo Volont, a human is just that a human. There are some capable of great good and some capable of great evil. Either way this man is a human and whatever reason he is there can be missplaced by the people. What is funny about humanity is we place our values in idealism. We need something to believe in to overcome great difficulties. There is a old saying beware of false prophets. Do not just believe in something because you do not understand, but try to better understand why you have the need to believe.

      If this person has acheived greater wisedom then personally I would like to meet him myself.
      Well, certainly not every 'human' can go a year without food or water. Not every 'human' is seen to glow in the dark, and to make the dumb speak. And there are a great many 'human's' in the Himalayan Mountains and Foothills who do not enjoy the prestige of having the recognized Spiritual Elite openly professing them to be the much awaited 'Matraiya'.

      No, your 'just human' argument smacks of the protestant doctrine of Original Sin, and pretends a moral hopelessness which evades all moral and spiritual responsibility, whereby we can easily identify it as really Satanic and Antichristical.

      Being 'only human' is the devils excuse for any imaginable evil. Spiritually, we all need to be better than that. And that Young Man in Nepal has already shown himself to be so.

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      Originally posted by Lucius


      Unless he will really perform a miracle nothing will change in the 'normal world'. And if he would perform real miracles, this wouldn't be right either as this would cause people to flock and follow, mindlessly. That's not the goal of an enlightened soul, I'd say.

      Why the dismal pessimism? Who would "follow mindlessly" except people who are quite mindless already, and who are following lesser objectives now just as mindlesslly. Wouldn't you rather suppose it is a Good Thing to give such 'mindless people' a worthwhile focus for their attentions and activities. Would it not be better then what they would ordinarily be doing?

      But what of people NOT inclined to be thoughtless and mindless?

      One only needs to observe the Historic relationship that had been struck up between Ramakrishna, the Holy Man, and Vivekananda the Great Spiritual Philosopher. Ramakrishna's influence did not deaden Vivekananda but rather only served to inspire him to higher and vaster ideas and realizations.

      The Influence of Saints serves to awaken, not deaden.

      I have a feeling that all of your pessimism is sourced out of the hopeless cliche's made popular by protestants and free masons. The celebration of Godless Secularism cannot be complete unless a dark and sinister pall is thrown over all of Religion and Spirituality, and so the masses have been conditioned to speak just as you have been speaking and to observe just as you have been observing. But shake it off, and reconsider using your own mind and what you have seen with your own eyes. Both People and Saints are better than you now think.

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      Originally posted by Peregrinus
      Bradybaker said that 90% of people still believe in God by their own admission. He did not say that 90% of people believe in your narrow definition of God, Leo.
      As Christ said "Wide is the Way that leads to destruction but narrow is the Way of Truth".

      And then, one of my favorite books is Somerset Maugham's "The Razor's Edge", concerning the spiritual quest. Does not the idea of a razor's edge suggest a certain necessary narrowness?

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      Originally posted by Raz
      I do belive he is having a conection to the whole... I also belive that as he progress more people over the world will start to feel that conection... I fealt the conection to the whole... About 7months ago... If only for a breefmoment... Only 2 or 3 seconds... Braking that conection was the worst thing that I had to go trough in my life... at sevral ocations I considerd taking my life and every now and then that idea still pops in to my head... But I got 2 very clear messages: We apreciate your patiens. No excuse for abuse.

      What was the conection like? Imagine a box that is in the midle of the ocean. In that box is a fishbowl. In this fishbowl is the entire world you know, all your friends, family, earth. One day you accedently jump out of the box and experiance the ocean... Then you get put back in to the box...

      What is coming is not going to leave anyone out as we are all one.

      What is coming is going to be the most amazing thing earth has ever fealt...

      What is coming is accelerating...

      This is what I belive from what I have experianced.
      Yeah!

      In this regards, I see Palden Dorje Ram Bomjan as a kind of Point Man -- the point that will burst the bubble, the one seed that will fertilize the Egg.

      Yes, there is a possibility that how ever far up He reaches, He might leave all of the rest of us behind, but what if that Divine Reality can come and meet Him half way. Then it is all closer for the rest of us.

      And this is why I suggest we should all do His Mantra a few times a day. Better yet, as this is a Dream Page, to cultivate our dreams toward meeting up with this Young Man... to develop some sympathetic resonance. Indeed, all it will take is seeing him once in a dream, and your own Mind will be telling you the Truth and what to Believe.

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      Originally posted by ravenqueen
      The Bible itself saids that we should not concern ourselves about when the messiah shall return.
      And I suppose you mean to say that your correlation to this scriptural passage is to firmly ignore the Messiah even after he should arrive.

      wondering 'when' is hardly the point now, isn't it? Once a Messiah arrives, the question of 'when' becomes rather moot, no?

      Just like last time, I suppose the greatest concern should be to decide whether you are for Him or against.

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      Re: Christ: He's Back. Matraiya. Ram Bomjan Palden Dorje

      Originally posted by Leo Volont+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Leo Volont)</div>
      In this context, when a group of Secular Atheist Skeptics arrived, introducing themselves with a slurry of rude questions and a front of obnoxiousness, well, the people, already reassured by their own Holy Men to the satisfaction of their Religion, and already reassured by their own Government Researchers, to satisfy their modern sense of rationality, well, people saw no need for this redundant group of slandering atheists and chased them away without a second thought. The Media pretends that this only group that was rejected was the only group that ever applied. One wonders why the Media would be so reluctant to express just why the local populations were so thoroughly convinced while focusing only on the smallest group which was dissatisfied only because its hostility put them at the greatest distance from the event. Perhaps the Media thought that they could save words by reporting ignorance, as informed knowledge would take so many more columns. [/b]
      Ahhh, the media war.

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      We all have to find our own way and our wisdom and enlightment. That's not something that can be given. (...) we should try look inside of ourselves instead
      That is what most of the messiahs have been teaching us.



      On a personal note, I really haven't heard much from this, I will certainly look for more info, but it is hard to find the right information. I practice alot of meditation and I've been wanting for years to take a trip over to India and Nepal, maybe in a couple of years I'll go there and see how things are advancing for him.

      I've been in alot of spiritual thought lately about a messiah, and, although alot of people here don't belive much, it is very prominent, strong, the feeling of a new source. I always thought though, that if a messiah is to come, that it would arrive here at the occidental (sp? western?) cultures, because if there really is a need for spiritual enlightment this days, it would of be here. What's your take Leo?
      Here and there...

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