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      Which is worse?


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      Well if (when) you cease to exist--which I assure you, you do--it wouldn't (won't) really bother you.
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      Wouldn't bother me to cease to exist, because then I would've never known I would've existed and never felt and loved life to care about it... I wouldn't be feeling anything at all really...

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      Just because I'm an atheist and think that, after this life, I will cease to exist, doesn't mean that that's what I WANT. Not that I mean to imply anyone was saying that.

      I believe that the going to hell and suffering for eternity option is infinetely worse, if even simply for the sake that you will be suffering, but to understand that it will be for ETERNITY. How sufficient a punishment is that for even the worst human beings?

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      Originally posted by bradybaker
      Well if (when) you cease to exist--which I assure you, you do--it wouldn't (won't) really bother you.
      How can you assure me?
      This will aid wether I choose to either rest in an eternity of dust or flames.
      That is a tough one!

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      I voted a week long bible retreat.
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      Burning in Hell is definetely worse.

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      I would pick anything besides ceasing to exist.. As long as you exist you still exsit. Theres nothing worse than not exsiting.

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      Originally posted by bradybaker
      which I assure you, you do
      Umm... how?

      Anyways, ceasing to exist wouldn't be bad, since i wouldn't be around to experience it, so there would be nothing to experience.
      Whereas in hell, i'd be in agony.

      Not that i believe either theory.

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      What? You mean I can't make baseless, unsupported claims like the thiests do?
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      I fear nonexistince more. This is mostly because I don't believe in Hell. I don't want to believe that I will cease to exist, but I can only think of reasons for it and none against it. I hope at least that I will be at peace when I go.

      Even if I did go to hell, wouldn't I get used to it?

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      Originally posted by bradybaker
      What? You mean I can't make baseless, unsupported claims like the thiests do?
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      I am an Atheist and you won't cease to exist when you die. When you die will be no different then when a computer dies, it's parts simply wear out. Through time all the atoms that made up your being will go into other things. Your form will not exist, but you will, probabaly not consiously, but you will exist.

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      Originally posted by CalmoftheEye
      I am an Atheist and you won't cease to exist when you die. When you die will be no different then when a computer dies, it's parts simply wear out. Through time all the atoms that made up your being will go into other things. Your form will not exist, but you will, probabaly not consiously, but you will exist.

      Regardless of religious conviction none of us know for sure what actually happens to our energy transformed after death. Rotting compost? I don't know. It would be nice to think our consciousness resides somewhere else. It would be nice to live in a heaven that I have heard described too.
      Burning in hell is neither of those. IMO even posing the question is a bit ridiculous. But if someone would choose to burn in hell as opposed to heaven or dirt, so be it.

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      Both of these options are ridiculous. First, burning in hell for eternity is sacrilegious. To give Hell an eternal duration is to give Evil an eternal duration, which means that sinners and the Devil are forever mocking God. This would mean God fails at your destiny. Also, the arguement that the suffering for a sin is infinite because it is against God who is infinite has to do with the common mistaking of the multiple meanings of the word infinite. Applied to God it means "unconditional" and applied to suffering means "perpetual"; these are two completely different things. This is like saying a sin is holy because God is, or that an injury from a tiger must be striped.

      Now, ceasing to exist...this depends on if you identify yourself with just your individual self or with the Whole. Are you actually an independant being, or like your body, will you transform into something else in a cyclical manner? If you identify yourself with the individual, then from that perspective you could cease to exist. But if you identify with the Whole, then its not a question of existance and non-existance, because the Whole includes all. From this perspective, you are now one of the indefinite individual beings (although it is illusory) that can exist. But here I am getting into things other than the topic, such as the false distinction between self and environment, supraindividual states of being, and so forth.

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      easy choice for me 8) at least I know that having once existed, I eternally am. and therefore don't have any petty worries about my own consciousness continuing for eternity.
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      Originally posted by syzygy
      Both of these options are ridiculous. First, burning in hell for eternity is sacrilegious. To give Hell an eternal duration is to give Evil an eternal duration, which means that sinners and the Devil are forever mocking God. This would mean God fails at your destiny. Also, the arguement that the suffering for a sin is infinite because it is against God who is infinite has to do with the common mistaking of the multiple meanings of the word infinite. Applied to God it means "unconditional" and applied to suffering means "perpetual"; these are two completely different things. This is like saying a sin is holy because God is, or that an injury from a tiger must be striped.

      Now, ceasing to exist...this depends on if you identify yourself with just your individual self or with the Whole. Are you actually an independant being, or like your body, will you transform into something else in a cyclical manner? If you identify yourself with the individual, then from that perspective you could cease to exist. But if you identify with the Whole, then its not a question of existance and non-existance, because the Whole includes all. From this perspective, you are now one of the indefinite individual beings (although it is illusory) that can exist. But here I am getting into things other than the topic, such as the false distinction between self and environment, supraindividual states of being, and so forth.
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      I didn't say that either one will happen, I was just curious about which one would be a worse fate.

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      I think ceasing to exist could be rather nice.

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      Originally posted by KidAircrash
      I think ceasing to exist could be rather nice.
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      I believe to many peopel it would be ceasing to exist for that is why I think an afterlife view is formed to hide from this idea, yet I dont think I would care for ither as If I dont exist I dont exist and then I wouldnt really care and if their is a hell then I am gonig their without a doubt
      Life dreams and pain are all of the same thing in one way or another they are all unreal as they are existant they define the way you see things something very few can figure out

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