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      Let me tell you a little story. A story about a man who wanted to fit in. about a man who searched for happiness, peace and harmony. He searched everywhere. Sometimes he found it. In friends, in material things, in a spouse. He wanted to find it in religion or in being nonreligious. But it always came to an end. He always ended up unhappy with something. And if he did not get unhappy he got numb to the experience and stopped appreciating what ever it was that made him happy to start with and so his search continued. Some times he got sick of searching and he felt very lonely at those points. He realized that the only thing that really lasted was his loneliness. This at some points made him sad. Other times he enjoyed being lonely.

      One day he realized that he believed in Jesus and in god. He believed in the Virgin Mary. But he also believed in Mohammed and in Allah .He believed in other prophets and gods. He believed in Buddhism. He did not believe there was one true religion. The so called religions where philosophies with some good ideas and some really weird ones.

      If god is all then I must be god just as much as everybody else is god. Together we on earth make one god. Part of many gods in this universe. It’s all very natural. It’s all very logical. Life is logical. God is logical. Love is logical. Love is what holds this reality together. He also believed in chaos. He believed in everything and nothing. But most of all he believed in him self.

      I am part of every religion and belief. But on top of all these beliefs I stand alone. On top of everything I am Rasmus. I am one experience, part of over 6 billion experiences. I am a rainbow warrior. I am who ever I want to be. I choose my own path. I am a seeker and a searcher. I am what you are looking for. I am what you love and what you hate. I am yin and yang, night and day. But most of all, I *am*: Carl, Rasmus, Nertlinge, Willhelm. And I am AWARE.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Raz View Post
      One day he realized that he believed in Jesus and in god. He believed in the Virgin Mary. But he also believed in Mohammed and in Allah.
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      Just to clear something up here, Allah is simply how you say 'God' in Arabic.

      And besides, Muslims believe in all those things too. They even call Jesus the Christ.

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      God is logical.[/b]
      No, not really. Gawd is perhaps the MOST illogical concept this world has ever known.
      Lumping together multiple theories of gawd is only worsening the contradictions, not fixing them.

      All this seems to sound quite a bit like Nirvana Starseed, back from the grave...
      "The One-ness" and all that.
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      You need to ask yourself what the essential difference is between the attitude of a Servant of God and that of a Lucifer or a Satan.

      The Servant of God is a Part of Everything... has Love for everything. There is the sense that Individuality disappears into the Unified Life of All Things, and that the only True Being is the Cosmic Christ, the One Existence that subsumes all Being, like the string that runs through the pearls, or the fabric that makes up the cloth.

      But the Lucifer sees only his own beauty. The illusion of individuality engenders an arrogance that makes him the Enemy of every other being, and every other thing.


      Then we can refer to mistaken assumptions. Is God really All Things, and not just the substrate. Does God really Divinize all He touches so that we can assign no Evil to anything anywhere? Well, no. This is the mistake of Religious Absolutism. it started with the Greeks and supposing that Mathematics applied everywhere. These Greek Speculators considered every category of mathematical and conceptual Absolute and supposed that such was the substance and being of God. Well, the problem there is that Every Conceptual Absolute is purely imaginary. There is no Infinity. There is no Eternity. There is no Omnipotence. There is no Omniscience. These are all just IDEAS.

      And you are ready to set yourself up as a Lucifer because of Concepts that do not even EXIST?

      Like Christ Jesus had once said, you are building your Tower upon loose sand. Your argument is fixed upon nothingness.

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      But the Lucifer sees only his own beauty. The illusion of individuality engenders an arrogance that makes him the Enemy of every other being, and every other thing. [/b]
      not if one sees their "own" beauty as a unique layer of fractal being...self-similar to the whole, and yet unreplicated precisely. something to take pride in, but never inflict violence for.

      without individuals there are no siblings or lovers as well as no enemies or adversaries..

      Like Christ Jesus had once said, you are building your Tower upon loose sand. Your argument is fixed upon nothingness[/b]
      existence is fixed upon no-thing-ness (the Father). Christ is just a symbol, an IDEA.

      neither christ nor lucifer have being except as emanations of the living void&#39;s imagination.


      “If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas.” (or better yet: three...)
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      No theory, no ready-made system, no book that has ever been written will save the world. I cleave to no system. I am a true seeker. - Mikhail Bakunin

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      Quote Originally Posted by Tsen View Post
      No, not really. Gawd is perhaps the MOST illogical concept this world has ever known.
      Lumping together multiple theories of gawd is only worsening the contradictions, not fixing them.
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      That my friend, is all a matter of point of view... For me god is logical...
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      not if one sees their "own" beauty as a unique layer of fractal being...self-similar to the whole, and yet unreplicated precisely. something to take pride in, but never inflict violence for.

      without individuals there are no siblings or lovers as well as no enemies or adversaries..
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      I agree...

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