Well thats sort of the point of following the monastic life; to attain enlightenment faster. |
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I would like to know: |
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Ignorant bliss is an oxymoron; but so is miserable truth.
Well thats sort of the point of following the monastic life; to attain enlightenment faster. |
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First of all I believe you only live once. Second enlightenment is just understanding, it can be whatever... It's just in your head too. If you make yourself believe you've reached enlightenment then you've reached it. Thats all there is to it. Its bologna. I personally believe it's a waste of time to try to reach enlightenment and you should just try to be happy. |
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I don't believe anything blindly, I base my beliefs on strong evidence, and this seems to be very reasonable to me...I don't think you only live once, you can't...nothing can come out of absolute nothingness. therefore you must have always existed, even if only in an unconscious state. and you will always exist. you may become unconscious, but something that is unconscious was inarguably conscious at one time, and must become conscious again at some point. it can't become absolute nothingness, nothing can. it's like I said in another thread: "If nothing existed, nothing would exist." |
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Ignorant bliss is an oxymoron; but so is miserable truth.
Xaqaria is correct, monastic life is said to help attain enlightenment faster. |
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well of course you exist if you actually consider that existing... you'll be dead and unconscious, with no body anymore... how is that existing? plusv if you think of it that way, trillions of other organisms have been created and existed with your same particles, and same energy. Thats the only thing that will exist that is "you" after you die... mere atoms and energy. But those are not you. the only way it could be YOU living again, i would think, is if every single atom in your brain somehow got together in the exact same way, in either another human. The odds of that happening are super slim. |
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"To want is to suffer" |
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I think you are applying your own beliefs, and therefore getting away from the question of buddhist beliefs. In Buddhism, there is no question about whether they "always were" since re-becoming in Buddhism is not exactly a direct continuation of a person in to a new body. Every person is a new person, and so there is no faster or slower when reaching enlightenment, there is only doing or not. Buddhists don't really believe in reincarnation in the sense that you seem to be referring to. |
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What is Enlightenment? |
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wow, this is completely random, but your name is non-dualistic and your in the religion and spirituality forum with only two posts? that can only make me wonder |
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It's only a catch 22 with the wrong logic. The logic of to want is to suffer is that you cannot make yourself the least bit happier by attaining anything you want. The only way to make yourself happier is to live in the moment, and in order to do that you have to give up worries and attachments that make you think about the past and future, because the past and future hold no meaning. It doesn't mean you can't work toward your goals, you just have to put value in the journey, not the destination. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light.
Everyone is different and everyone lives their life (lives) differently. There is no universal pattern that people go through - some people develop faster than others, some move backwards. So yes, people can reach enlightenment after a different number of lives. |
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where'd you get that information? |
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Ignorant bliss is an oxymoron; but so is miserable truth.
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