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      The Bible is not literal( question/discussion)?

      Hey guys, i read in an article recently that before the 19tho r 18th century(cant remember which... couldn't find the article, was in newspaper or something), the large majority of people, even the Church, considered the Bible's stories as not being literal at all and just being a way to describe morals and events for human understanding. Of course this isn't all the writings of the Bible but most of the parables and stories involving Biblical characters . Apparently more modern Christianity suddenly changed this view and so now a much larger number of people do believe large sections of the Bible literally occurred/are meant and are not just parables.

      What caused this change and why? I thought Christians were more strict back then but if they didn't take much of the Bible as being literal and yet we do now then why have we suddenly become more "extreme" in our beliefs then them?
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      All the non-literalists were killed by the literalists.

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      Is that true? If so, that's genuinely interesting. I would thoroughly agree that Biblical stories are more moral tales (though I'm sure that many did happen to varying degrees of accuracy).

      Eitherway, I'm inclined to blame fundementalist American Christians. It helps ease the pain.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Siиdяed View Post
      Eitherway, I'm inclined to blame fundementalist American Christians. It helps ease the pain.
      If you were really reasonable, you would blame their parents.

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      Quote Originally Posted by thegnome54 View Post
      If you were really reasonable, you would blame their parents.
      What about their parents?

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      Was there a particular reason cited as to why they were not taken literally?
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      And what about their parents' parents?

      You see churchwise indocrtination, in which the literal interpretation of the Bible is often used to subdue the people and justify crimes of inhumanity, is deeply rooted in Roman Catholicism.

      The Roman empire never actually collapsed. When more and more Christians started communities all over the middle east, eastern europe and the roman empire, the Romans were affraid of a Christian Revolution. As Christianity grew they just thought: " If you can't beat em, Join em"and what a clever move it was.

      Now all those newly converted, united Christians now obeyed (Once again) to the Roman empire's rule, now disguised as The "Roman Catholic empire". The last emperor of Byzantine, the Eastern Roman empire, had himself baptised at his death, instead of at birth, to have the people believe he was a convinced Christians. He wasn't baptised at birth because he wasn't a Christian at all and his rather "late" baptism was more a clever trick to make Christians believe the Roman Empire had turned into a true Christian empire. Oh boy were they wrong hailing the very same people that nailed their prophet to the cross.

      Well we all know how much power the Roman Empire still has today.
      And how they use God's name for selfish, dominating reasons. In idleness.

      The original Hebraic bible and the original Hebraic-Christian bible were writen as moral guidelines for humanity. Methaphorical stories to explain the abstracts of life and the moral universal values of mankind and how to respect them. Amazing how something sooo good can be used for intentions soooo bad.
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      not to overestimate the Value of our Concrete Knowledge;"Common sense"/Rationality,
      for doing so would make us Blind for the unimaginable, unparalleled Capacity of and Wisdom contained within our Felt Knowledge;Subconscious Intuition.

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      Quote Originally Posted by SKA View Post
      And what about their parents' parents?
      Exactly. I worded it that way to make it a sort of recursive affair - very few fundamentalist Christians (or staunch believers in any religion, really) made a conscious decision to take up their beliefs. Their beliefs were simply pounded into them from birth by their parents, and likewise for their parents and the parents before them. Once the indoctrination takes root, it is passed on like a virus - it's a 'meme', as Dawkins would put it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Silvanus350 View Post
      Was there a particular reason cited as to why they were not taken literally?
      Well basically the Church preachers and most others believed as it was the book of God. It was facts and ways to life dumbed down to human understanding through various parables that related tot hem or that they could understand fully. David and Goliath, Joana(sp?) and the Whale, etc. They didn't happen but they described things such as keeping faith, being strong, etc. IN ways we could semi relate to.
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      Quote Originally Posted by cuddleyperson View Post
      Well basically the Church preachers and most others believed as it was the book of God. It was facts and ways to life dumbed down to human understanding through various parables that related tot hem or that they could understand fully. David and Goliath, Joana(sp?) and the Whale, etc. They didn't happen but they described things such as keeping faith, being strong, etc. IN ways we could semi relate to.
      lmao! Joana and the whale, sounds like a porn flick .

      It's spelt JONA.

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      I don't even want to imagine a porn flick like Jonah and the Whale.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Siиdяed View Post
      I don't even want to imagine a porn flick like Jonah and the Whale.
      *He put JOANA. lmao

      But still. wtflol.

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      yeah what eva, hey it would have added some spice to the book.
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      If it is meant to be literal, it is just one more addition to the "game."
      Otherwise there were some really poor writers.

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      The New Testament is pretty much just Old Testament FanFic anyways.

      Revelations is slash fic.

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