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      If you could dream...

      Two topics to address. You do not have to answer every single question, simply pick the ones you would like to answer. State them as 1a, 2b etc.

      1.
      A. If you could dream up a God or creator, what traits would you wish him to have
      B. What traits would you assume he must have?

      2.
      A. If you could dream up a religion or spiritual system, what would it involve?
      B. Would their be a hell, heaven, or just one place?
      C. What would you like their to be? as in, would there be love? Food? Electronics? or would it be free reign to do whatever you wish without consequence.

      You are bound to answer these in a way as such to not change the fabric of reality itself, I.E. no,
      1.A. He would create the world perfect.

      Or you can say anything you like about what you would like there to be if spirituality of any form existed...not what you believe, what you want, however it must be within the parameters of what we know about reality at this present time.

      I really want you guys to answer number 1.
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      1.
      A.
      Love, compassion, intelligence(obvously), infinite understanding of peoples faults. The desire to protect everyone, sinner and saint. The desire to give everyone the same prosperity and peace that any other should have.

      B.
      He must be evil, coldhearted, cruel, unjustified, self-absorbed, ignorant, uncompassionate, arrogant, and sadistic in his nature.

      2.
      A.
      It would merely involve the energy of reality to have conciousness, and an afterlife in which we were safe from harm, and had recreational activities that were actually fun. There would be three realities, the first is Earth, the second is life after Earth, and the third is life after life after Earth. After dieing on Earth you would go to the second place, and then you would live untill you die again, and go to the third place, and beyond that you would continue to live and die transfering between the 3rd and 2nd place.
      B.
      There would be one place, and we would all be free from "human" harm, and evil wouldn't be able to be done, only age and decay, thus suffering would continue, but it would not be possible to be cause by a persons willful intent. Suicide would be acceptable as a system of transfer if you prefered one reality to the other. (because each of them would be very different, so that you wouldn't get bored.
      C.
      There would most definantly be love, perhaps there would be no food, but drinks would always be around. Electronics may be around for intelligent resources, because I would prefer human beings not to know everything without "learning" it. However, they would be obsolete in terms of recreation, because we would be capabable of doing almost anything during our young stage of reality life, and be restricted to watching in our old stage, unless we commite suicide. There would be free reign to do none detrimental things without consequence.

      Of course I haven't really worked out all the bugs, but this is basically what I would prefer, and there would be no "birth" you would be born as a 10 year old everytime...

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      1.
      A. Bar ultimate knowledge, compassion and some kind of judgment beyond us no humans traits. Human traits can lead to evil, so apart from compassion for his creation, i would want him to have traits we can't imagine because he is simply on another plain of intelligence to us.
      B. Judgment of right and wrong, a sense of balance and fairness.

      2.
      A. The basis of the religion would have to be to care for one another and to work together to make this world as perfect as possible for all. I believe the creator would have more of a direct involvement such as appearing to us every now and then, updating rules to apply to our lifestyles and generally to help us on the right track a little, not too much as we need free will and the creator surely wants to see what we can accomplish, but just a nudge in the right direction if things are slipping.( however this is more of an ideology in a sense, well the first part)
      B. Hmm right, well i do believe Good and Bad should be judged but i don't think anyone deserves suffering. I believe if one leads a good life and is compassionate to others like God, when they die they would forever be in a lucid dream state. Basically they could experience anything they wished for, or possibly the option to stay with God directly as one could probably take forever to learn and understand it( no sex so I'm saying it)
      C. Assuming your talking about my "heaven", then free reign as i said. If in life then humans would be able to create and in fact be encouraged to by the creator. So we would have all the technology we have now. The creator however would help us by providing resources, for example in the case of coal we would be given enough to sustain us, however when the creator felt we had developed enough to research better energy sources and when we realized about the environmental damage( if we didn't then a nudge would being order) then they would start limiting the supply and say we needed Beretium for nuclear fusion( if this was the next step, seems a sun is a good one) then Beretium would be easily found, until again we needed to improve further.
      Lugggs and cuddles and hugs for all!!

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      Just to clarify, 1.b. is what you assume the creator actually has, as in from what you have seen, what do you believe he must really be like?

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      what are you trying to accomplish with this?


      Ignorant bliss is an oxymoron; but so is miserable truth.

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      Quote Originally Posted by paperdoll View Post
      what are you trying to accomplish with this?
      To see what people wish for...

      To see how people percieve existence....

      To see what someone would rather have, than what they believe they have.

      Like for example...I longed for a
      Love, compassion, intelligence(obvously), infinite understanding of peoples faults. The desire to protect everyone, sinner and saint. The desire to give everyone the same prosperity and peace that any other should have.
      but actually believe that if there is one it must be
      He must be evil, coldhearted, cruel, unjustified, self-absorbed, ignorant, uncompassionate, arrogant, and sadistic in his nature.
      Others may find opposite views, or whatever...they may want God to be more vengful, instead of infinately compassionate as they believe he is...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Sandform View Post
      To see what people wish for...

      To see how people percieve existence....

      To see what someone would rather have, than what they believe they have.

      ok, I'll be simple: I don't wish for anything, it's a waste of time. I want the truth. I want to find what helps the most people and hurts the least, and to raise people's awareness. I don't know of anything that could be more important in my life or anyone else's. I don't know what to think of existence, except that it's bizarre.
      all I want is to learn. and what do you know? I have all that is required for that. wishing won't accomplish anything.


      Ignorant bliss is an oxymoron; but so is miserable truth.

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