Thread: Is Christianity Monotheistic or Polytheistic?

I can't speak about the angels, demons and lucifer.
But I've heard this argument regarding the belief that God, Jesus and the Holy spirit are 3 and 1. It was a debate between Muslims and Christians and a similar question was brought up. How can Christians claim to be monothiestic if they believe God is 3 and 1, while Muslims believe God is one and only one? This was the answer:

Muslims believe in the oneness of God.
Christians believe in the unity of God.

Sorry to bring another faith into it, but I needed to show the contrast between the two.

What is the Holy Ghost anyway? Nobody seems to actually know.

Isn't it the Angel Gabriel? The boss angel?

What about Metatron? Or is that only in the Talmud?

No, Kushna, The Holy Spirit is more than Gabriel. It is in essence the love of God out poured for us. It was through it that Jesus worked His miracles.
How can we believe that there are tree persons in one God?
I'd like to say christians know that. But, the truth is we don't.

Seems like meaningless words and phrases to me. I'm still no closer to know what the Holy Ghost actually is.

satan isn't the cause of all those things, our sin is

Originally Posted by Scarred_for_life

satan isn't the cause of all those things, our sin is

Then by his logic, we are gods. More powerful then the God. What do you call that religion? Egotheistic?

Originally Posted by Xei

Seems like meaningless words and phrases to me. I'm still no closer to know what the Holy Ghost actually is.

If you look at most trinities from ancient mythologies, they constitute of a male god, a female goddesss, and a child diety. Like most other elements of organized religion, the idea of the trinity was stolen from pagan mythology and altered to suit the abrahamic requirements - which resulted in the female spirit being stripped of all significant recognizing features, because of course, you cannot treat women on a societal level as chattel (which primitive abrahamic religions did - and some still do today) if you acknowledge that they are necessary to the spiritual balance of the universe.

In short, the Holy Spirit is the female element of the trinity that has been de-faced, de-named and de-gendered because Abrahamic religions are inherently misogynistic.

It's monotheistic. The Holy Trinity is one thing, in the end, it's just different facetes, different elements of the same thing. Christians are exceptionally firm on that.

Angels (largely sourced from pseudopygraphal texts and the like, which the vast majority of Christians today wouldn't even recognise) are emphasised as not being gods - Metatron is lashed as example of this at one point (again, not in the Bible).

Does it matter how many gods a religion has? The only difference it makes is that if Christianity is polytheistic, then it makes Christians liars for claiming they are monotheistic. But then again, Christians are already hypocrites, so this doesn't matter either.

To answer your question Christianity is monotheistic.

Originally Posted by MontyFlatts

Does it matter how many gods a religion has? The only difference it makes is that if Christianity is polytheistic, then it makes Christians liars for claiming they are monotheistic. But then again, Christians are already hypocrites, so this doesn't matter either.

To answer your question Christianity is monotheistic.

"Christianty" if it can even claim to be that, has been built upon the polytheistic roman-pagan religious structure that were in place when Constantine made it the religion of the Empire in the 4th century.

All the saints in Catholicism? Christianized minor deities.

Yes that goes for "protestants" as well.
If you celebrate Christmas, Easter, any of that stuff, you're polytheistic.

I think to be a Christian, as opposed to say a Buddhist, is by nature, to be a bit of a hypocrite because you are trying to uphold and promote a moral standard that is essentially beyond what is humanly possible.

That being said I think Christianity in its purest form is the most noble religion on earth, but the amount of people who actually practice what they preach I would believe to be very small.

I just find it sickening that something with so much potential became so corrupted. But that goes for the human race as a whole.

In 325 AD, Emperor Constantine took over the Christian faith and introduced many doctrines seen in present day Christianity: the belief that Jesus is the son of God, the adoption of roman pagan rituals into the religion, etc. Yes, it is sickening how distorted this pure religion has become.

I would advise Christians to read the Gospel of Barnabas, the only surviving Gospel written by an actual disciple of Jesus. Unfortunately, the church has forbidden any Christian to read it on pain of eternal punishment. Why would the church forbid its followers to read a first-hand account of the person the religion is based around?

Originally Posted by Kushna Mufeed

In 325 AD, Emperor Constantine took over the Christian faith and introduced many doctrines seen in present day Christianity: the belief that Jesus is the son of God, the adoption of roman pagan rituals into the religion, etc. Yes, it is sickening how distorted this pure religion has become.

I would advise Christians to read the Gospel of Barnabas, the only surviving Gospel written by an actual disciple of Jesus. Unfortunately, the church has forbidden any Christian to read it on pain of eternal punishment. Why would the church forbid its followers to read a first-hand account of the person the religion is based around?

I completely agree about how distorted it got, but as for Barnabas... what about Matthew? I thought he was Jesus' apostle?

There were 12 disciples, no?

well yeah, but you said Barnabas' was the only one written by an actual apostle, but there's the gospel of Matthew

However his is the only one credited to an apostle, Matthew was written anonymously.

Originally Posted by Alban

"Christianty" if it can even claim to be that, has been built upon the polytheistic roman-pagan religious structure that were in place when Constantine made it the religion of the Empire in the 4th century.

All the saints in Catholicism? Christianized minor deities.

Yes that goes for "protestants" as well.
If you celebrate Christmas, Easter, any of that stuff, you're polytheistic.

I think to be a Christian, as opposed to say a Buddhist, is by nature, to be a bit of a hypocrite because you are trying to uphold and promote a moral standard that is essentially beyond what is humanly possible.

That being said I think Christianity in its purest form is the most noble religion on earth, but the amount of people who actually practice what they preach I would believe to be very small.

I just find it sickening that something with so much potential became so corrupted. But that goes for the human race as a whole.

Christianity and Catholicism are not the same thing.

(Wow, I destroyed 6 paragraphs with one sentence )

And no it does not go for all Protestants. Not all Christians believe in saints and Easter, unless you noticed

How is it the Gospel of Matthew if Matthew didn't write it?

IDK, it and The Gospel of Mark are both anonymously written, but attributed to their respective titles.

Confusing, but I'm guessing that means they weren't written by them. The Gospel of Barnabas was actually written by Barnabas. Although it has probably lost some meaning due to the English version being a translation of translations.

Originally Posted by Kushna Mufeed

Confusing, but I'm guessing that means they weren't written by them. The Gospel of Barnabas was actually written by Barnabas. Although it has probably lost some meaning due to the English version being a translation of translations.

Well thats what the whole bible is... translations of translations of translations.

Word of Mouth>Aramaic>Greek>Latin>English that's the most basic set I can think of off hand, there are others that might have more or less languages, but that's about it.

As for the Gospel of Barnabas, among other writings omitted from the Bible, I'd think that they're more true to their originals, as they haven't had all the revisions and whatnot done by biased transcribers.

Originally Posted by Xei

Seems like meaningless words and phrases to me. I'm still no closer to know what the Holy Ghost actually is.

A fucking men.

I see this all the time:

Word fluff that actually says nothing. It's like filling a book with the same answer to a question only rephrased every time someone asks it.

*Reads thread*
*Gets glass of wine*
*Thinks*
Hum... It seems to me, quite simply, that the Christian God cannot exist. He loves, which requires neurons, but has no physical form. The same with having a child, which requires loins. We are the creators of all sin, and yet, God can do nothing to stop us. Why? We control him, not vice-versa. Why are we even here? He wanted someone to love him willingly. He needed someone to love him willingly. The very act of admitting that he even wanted anything, makes him imperfect. What could he do if we refused him the power to contorl us with his laws? Nothing. God has, in my eyes, and the eyes of any thinking human, had a heinous amount of holes punched in him. Not to mention the idiocy of the very concept of an all-powerful being watching our every move. In my opinion, Christians can only hold onto their faith until we find alien life. At that point, it will become obvious that both races of beings were not created by the same diety, because they will be unimaginably different, and hopefully athiestic. Have I missed any of my thoughts? Maybe. Meh. Give me your thoughts and I might remember something.

What if God was a physical being on an alien world at a higher state of consciousness than what we could currently perceive? The Heavens didn't always once mean the skies, it once meant the stars.