Maybe there would be a guy who looks like Popeye. You never know.
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Maybe there would be a guy who looks like Popeye. You never know.
http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia.../78/Popeye.jpg
What are you guys talking about? Of course he is real! I got a picture of him right here.
Oh no. This thread was supposed to be about belief degree labels, but it has actually turned into a debate about whether Popeye exists. :bang:
Of course Popeye exists...otherwise why would we be having this conversation?
what I think you are getting it is : the word agnostic in this case is silly because everyone knows, popeye is a fictional character and doesn't exist except in the form of fiction. so therefore, no one is agnostic on the issue. how can you be agnostic on something that you know isn't real?
as a relation to the word agnostic as being agnostic about the belief of God.
but if this is what you are really after, then you are twisting the words around. we CAN have the label 'agnostic' because people DO believe God is REAL.
Then everything that has ever been thought is true.
Due remember that humans aren't the only things that think.
Yes, I do believe Pop-Eye exists in reality. Not your reality, not even mine, but you didn't specify whose reality.
This might be news to you, but reality isn't proprietary.
It is the way you're using the word right now.
If you want reality to mean what objectively exists, then realize you're own viewpoint is subjective. Realize nothing is provable in reality because everything is preceived from a perspective.
Wow, you just widened my world view like nothing ever before. Ever.
Except I learned this in like 6th grade biology. Or kindergarten if you count optical illusions.
Anyway, you fail.
Jesus Christ on a cracker, what's it with this forum and people posting jibberish all the time?
I think he lives in a parralel universe.
Popeye land.
You are all wrong. I define popeye as Spinoza's popeye, ie. the whole of reality. Hence he clearly exists, and any people who say otherwise are in denial.
Spinoza's Popeye...
is there a Spinoza's Olive Oyl?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Popeyfirst.gif
Words exist for a reason, they're symbols so people know what we're talking about. If you want to call socks popeye and wrenches God, then you're just going to confuse everybody. The word God exists for a reason, so the people that DO believe in it are able to talk about it. They don't really care if you worship a wrench.
And honestly, you can't prove the non-existence of popeye. I say Pop-eye is a real person because my thoughts are just as real as matter, just made of something else. Furthermore, existence is so vast, and it gets a million times bigger every time we come across some new technology. It's probably infinite, with every possible form of existence in some place, in some time, in some universe.
EDIT: And as this relates to WMDs, just because I can't prove pop-eye doesn't exist doesn't mean I'm going to eat spinach whenever I'm getting bullied. I might try it once and realize it doesn't work, but then I won't claim it works afterwards anyway and make up evidence.
That was exactly my point, via satire.
I asked if Popeye exists in reality, not if the thought of Popeye exists in reality.
What major intelligence sources reported stockpiles of Popeye in the hands of a government that once used Popeye in a terrorist attack?