Thread: Christians are not Monotheistic.

Yeah, the Christian God is the one true God, unless of course you count Satan as a Deity as he is of equal power as Yaweh. And the Holy Spriti. What the fuck is tha supposed to be anyway?

And I love the part where you go from Volume one (OT) to Volume two (NT) and this Jesus guy just get invented and added to god as not only his equal, but an actual part of him. He was literally pulled out of the asses of the NT's authors, and has supposedly always been, and this is accepted among christians.

And then they wonder why we laugh.

Well, the Messiah is mentioned in the Old Testament, and Christians believe that Jesus is the Messiah.

The holy spirit is the word of God.

Good point about Satan...it's just that if you're Christian hopefulky you're only worshiping God and not Satan

as a christian, i dont think "the devil" exists, and if he does, i doubt he has as much power, or even anywhere near as much power as god. i think evil exists, but no personification (sp?) of it.

only one god, imo

In my religion class we learned that it was actually an invention of some movements to personify the devil, and most early curches only believed that if there was some force of evil, he was yet another part of god that he let out to test people or just plain punish people. Funny how beliefs evolve so much.

Originally Posted by Avalon Jr.

as a christian, i dont think "the devil" exists, and if he does, i doubt he has as much power, or even anywhere near as much power as god. i think evil exists, but no personification (sp?) of it.

only one god, imo

So then what the fuck was the point of Jesus?

To tell you that you are naughty naughty humans.

People can't seem to get pass the "Christian" God or "muslim" god. I don't know why some people can't just see them as the same one God but the followers choose to worship in different ways.

The devil and demons are just a way to explain away previous gods and goddesses, pre-Christianity.

Muslims do not regard Muhammad as the founder of a new religion, but as the restorer of the original monotheistic faith of Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and other prophets. Islamic tradition holds that Jews and Christians distorted the revelations God gave to these prophets by either altering the text, introducing a false interpretation, or both.

Originally Posted by A Roxxor

So then what the fuck was the point of Jesus?

the point of jesus, whether he was real or not, was to tell you a story about a good guy that died for our sins, wins, fins, and any other lulzy rhyming word you can think of!

the bible ma just be one big story, none of it being true, but im going to treat the good parts well, and be (accoring to the bible) moral.

Avalon out, i quit R/S.

Even a Christian would pray to satan just not to get spanked by him.

Do christians define the Devil as deity O.o

Wasn't he just fallen angel?

aren't we all

maybe.. I am not that familiar with christianity since it has so many different forms. I am just curious how someone can raise a being who was below a god to deity. Does it mean that this god holds his seat of power.. well because he is merely strong enough?

Originally Posted by Avalon Jr.

the point of jesus, whether he was real or not, was to tell you a story about a good guy that died for our sins, wins, fins, and any other lulzy rhyming word you can think of!

the bible ma just be one big story, none of it being true, but im going to treat the good parts well, and be (accoring to the bible) moral.

Avalon out, i quit R/S.

Right, so he died for our sins. But he's immortal. That's like me getting a nosebleed and saying that I am going to use this 'sacrifice' as a symbol of my love for my girlfriend. Not much of a sacrifice. That would be like, a bad joke. Or something.

"I love you so much, I got this nosebleed! Well, I had. It went away now :<"

"Er, okay. You on some new meds or something?"

At least, this is my reaction. And anyway, people weren't killed when they were crucified. At least, that wasn't the goal. That isn'tto say some didn't die. It was for humiliation, not execution.

I once saw a documentary that said crucifiction was definitely meant for execution; in fact, it was supposed to be the most torturous death possible.

Originally Posted by Kael Seoras

I once saw a documentary that said crucifiction was definitely meant for execution; in fact, it was supposed to be the most torturous death possible.

It has been a way to execute the most lowlife criminals in many countries. Because the pain and humilitation I guess.

I thought being slow cooked alive was the worst torture the roman's conducted, that or stretching, rope crucification would seem like a walk in the park next to that, but I'm still not sure about the real deal.

Yeah well when humans become bored they tend to get creative. So yeah I think there are lots of more terrible ways to execute someone.

One that I think was practised somewhere, or at least even if it wasn't it sure sounds painful. Flaying alive and leaving into cage so you prolly won't die for next two days at least.

Gives me bad vibes.

yeah man, shit is fucked up.

If the Christians had gained as much control like the Romans, they wouldn't have been any better.

Well they are still humans, power corrupts humans. Maybe the worst power you could think is to think that you could judge others and decide who goes where.

If we gave gods a scalpel and let them split human in two.. well that would be full of shit.

yes, but no one would deny the want for power.

Originally Posted by Kael Seoras

I once saw a documentary that said crucifiction was definitely meant for execution; in fact, it was supposed to be the most torturous death possible.

Yeah, that was when they set them on fire.

Originally Posted by A Roxxor

Yeah, that was when they set them on fire.

That's some fucked up shit...fucking sadistic people...

But yea in the documentary they were saying that what would happen is after a while you would be in pain from the strained muscles...I don't remember the details but it was supposed to be pretty bad.

So then of course they eventually had to add fucking fire to it...I don't understand some people...

First, this arguement is done to death... totally not necessary to create another post about it.

The simple fact is, this arguement has ZERO relevence... whether or not they are poly/monotheistic, in no way effects the religions validity