Thread: Religious people are ridiculous sometimes...

Religion is just Fantasy pretending to be Reality.

Of course this will happen to some people. Others think the universe is 6000 years old and constructed around them.

Atheists don't mind violating privacy sometimes, woops another generalization...

I'm not religious
but i like to see it in a positive way
is just that a 95% of the religious ppl I know are stupid
not that religious ppl are stupid

Originally Posted by firat

Atheists don't mind violating privacy sometimes, woops another generalization...

You have failed at reading this thread.

Originally Posted by A Roxxor

You have failed at reading this thread.

You have not failed tolerating people posting private conversations on public forums

It wasn't a private converstaion - there were more people than just us in there. We were just the only ones having a conversation at the time, though.

Well, some people are just stupid. Not much to do about that.

Originally Posted by aklyatne

It wasn't a private converstaion - there were more people than just us in there. We were just the only ones having a conversation at the time, though.

We can see her nick and she is most probobly not aware of what's going on here... Anyway I can also find quotes by several people and claim XXX people are ridiculous sometimes. She may be the stupidest or most narrow minded creature alive yet this still doesn't necessarily mean the community she is(or claims to be) part of is like her or shares the same opinion.

Originally Posted by Arcana

I'm not religious
but i like to see it in a positive way
is just that a 95% of the religious ppl I know are stupid
not that religious ppl are stupid

I agree....

Having beliefs in God can be very positive... but taking the next step and becoming religious can cause utter insanity as the conversation posted illustrates...

Originally Posted by aklyatne

A conversation I just had. She was being entirely serious, too. This just shows what religion has done to some people...

Can you tell me any more info about the her/the chat medium it was on? i MUST talk to her, it's just so ridiculous that she would believe that...

Sigh...

More fools falling for the Dark Lord's trap.

Originally Posted by aklyatne

A conversation I just had. She was being entirely serious, too. This just shows what religion has done to some people...

94.....that means she's only 16 (because what else would 94 at the end of her name mean), so she's got a ways to go before developing something of an independent mind (but everybody reaches that point at a different age, who knows)

but even so, I don't believe in pushing "free-thinking" into people like her. she's comfortable in her religious beliefs.

her answer to the topic IS silly, though, it's just too bad they're missing out on the best nighttime hobby (besides clubbing)

Originally Posted by AirRick101

94.....that means she's only 16 (because what else would 94 at the end of her name mean),

What the hell does that mean? If you mean 94 means her year of birth, than she'd be closer to 14 or 15. Otherwise I don't understand what you're talking about.

Originally Posted by AirRick101

but even so, I don't believe in pushing "free-thinking" into people like her. she's comfortable in her religious beliefs.

Whoopdee Fucking Doo she's comfortable. Her attitude is still a pox on the world, making her just another inhibitor to actually advancing past the primitive apes we are. People like her are a barrier.

By the way, there are a lot people who are comfortable believing in Sharia Law.

Originally Posted by Tarsier

Just shut up all of you.

Anyway, this.

Yeah, get over it.

I think this is ridiculous, but so what?

Originally Posted by ExoByte

What the hell does that mean? If you mean 94 means her year of birth, than she'd be closer to 14 or 15. Otherwise I don't understand what you're talking about.

whoops, lol.

my bad for the miscalculation.

Originally Posted by really

Yeah, get over it.

I think this is ridiculous, but so what?

actually, I identify with your response the most, haha.

Originally Posted by AirRick101

actually, I identify with your response the most, haha.



...but I can't let a good argument pass me by.

some of the world's most famous scientists have been Christian: Einstein,

Minor correction here Einstein was agnostic.

some of the world's most famous scientists have been Christian: Einstein, Newton, Descartes, Copernicus, Bacon, Galilei, Mendel, Kelvin, etc.

now, to be fair, I will acknowledge some of the atheist scientists who have made great discoveries as well - Freud, Laplace, Crick, Watson, Darwin (who's "atheism" is actually still questioned to this day)

Holy shit you're ignorant...

For a start Einstein was a Jew who was forced to flee from Nazi Germany. He later became an atheist.

Darwin was the agnostic.

According to studies the majority of scientists in modern times are atheists:

A study has shown atheism to be particularly prevalent among scientists, a tendency already quite marked at the beginning of the 20th century, developing into a dominant one during the course of the century. In 1914, James H. Leuba found that 58% of 1,000 randomly selected U.S. natural scientists expressed "disbelief or doubt in the existence of God" (defined as a personal God which interacts directly with human beings). The same study, repeated in 1996, gave a similar percentage of 60.7%; this number is 93% among the members of the National Academy of Sciences. Expressions of positive disbelief rose from 52% to 72%.

Just try to imagine a world where an attempt at government order is attempted without any religion to be the staple. Yeah, the only one that works is dictatorship and communism, right? And even those are continuing to crumble.

Yeah, who cares what fairy tale we all believe in, as long as we believe in some fairy tale or other our society will be strong.

Doubleplusgood doublethinking!

Originally Posted by firat

You have not failed tolerating people posting private conversations on public forums

http://www.bash.org

Grow a set.

Originally Posted by AirRick101

actually, I identify with your response the most, haha.



...but I can't let a good argument pass me by.

some of the world's most famous scientists have been Christian: Einstein, Newton, Descartes, Copernicus, Bacon, Galilei, Mendel, Kelvin, etc.

the discoveries of these men rival those of any atheist scientist.

Einstein was an atheist. Newton was not a traditional christian, he did not believe in the trinity, nor that Jesus was the son of god. Sir Francis Bacon was a deist, not a christian.

Even still, the personal beliefs of a person who made a significant discovery does not change the fact that religion is simply a fairy tale for adults.

All of these people lived before The 1960s anyway, and being atheist then was worth capital punishment or at least extremely sociall unacceptable.

now, to be fair, I will acknowledge some of the atheist scientists who have made great discoveries as well - Freud, Laplace, Crick, Watson, Darwin (who's "atheism" is actually still questioned to this day)

Yeah, no shit it's questioned. Stupid people are constantly trying to say that these people 'weren't really atheist' because they're uncomfortable with that.

The truth is the truth is the truth. No amount of symantics games is going to get you around it.

but even so, the number of religious scientists far outnumber those of the atheist rank.

This is immaterial. Most "scientists" belong in the Psychology category. Majorities don't decide the truth.

on a side note, my observation is that atheists these days tend to be too pre-occupied with arguing against Christians as well as trying to disprove their beliefs, rather than spend that thought dipping around in science and making some positive change.

Huh? If you recall, it was those idiots we all know as Fundametalist Christians and thier little political crusade against modern science that started all of this bullshit. Most professional scientists don't give a rat's ass what those people say or think, though, and are more concerned with research and intelligent discussion as opposed to arguing with stubborn idiots.

Just try to imagine a world where an attempt at government order is attempted without any religion to be the staple. Yeah, the only one that works is dictatorship and communism, right? And even those are continuing to crumble.

So you're saying it's perfectly all right to lie and twist the truth to keep people ignorant and under control? Lol that's nice. Kind of like totalitarianism only you're poisoning them with the thought of eternal punishment if they don't obey.

Not to mention Galileo, Copernicus and Descartes were all threatened with excommunication if they didn't stop their studies.

Bacon wasn't just a deist, he was a member of the Rosicrucian order. He worshiped symbolic truth in a similar way that the Gnostics did at the birth of christianity. It was through the transformation of symbolic truth to literal myth that christianity lost its validity. Bacon, however, hid many symbolic truths within the King James Bible allowing truth to seep through the bullshit for anyone who can discern it.

so sorry to hear that most of you are so bitter towards religion....

But I'm flattered a bunch of you took the time to respond so aggressively to my post. But honestly, there's just too much for me to respond to, and I know it would start a vehement chain reaction if I said anymore.

Yes, it's true that atheism and agnosticism are more conducive to scientific research (e.g. bypassing the moral dilemma behind stem cell research). I can agree to that.

I really meant to speak against Exobyte's generalization that all religious people hold the world back from development.

That's the problem right there. There is no moral dilemma behind stem cell research. The religious nuts try to make some sort of connection with the bible and stem cell research. Cummon people, that was written 2000 years ago. They didn't even know what a cell was. Evidently they didn't know what research was either. And still don't.

We really need to get that separation of church and state thing going. In all countries.

I don't care what beliefs people want to hold. But they should keep it in their own little sectors of worship and let the scientists and philosophers advance the world for the greater good.

What is their reasoning behind trying to stop stem cell research?
I've never figured it out except that it relates to killing a baby. The scientists got around this and don't need that embryo any more. They can use any cell. This is the shit they have to deal with. Wasting more money and time. Hundreds of thousands of people are dying while they figure out ways around the insanity that is religion merging with science. How do the religious people feel about that?

Originally Posted by tommo

That's the problem right there. There is no moral dilemma behind stem cell research. The religious nuts try to make some sort of connection with the bible and stem cell research. Cummon people, that was written 2000 years ago. They didn't even know what a cell was. Evidently they didn't know what research was either. And still don't.

We really need to get that separation of church and state thing going. In all countries.

I don't care what beliefs people want to hold. But they should keep it in their own little sectors of worship and let the scientists and philosophers advance the world for the greater good.

What is their reasoning behind trying to stop stem cell research?
I've never figured it out except that it relates to killing a baby. The scientists got around this and don't need that embryo any more. They can use any cell. This is the shit they have to deal with. Wasting more money and time. Hundreds of thousands of people are dying while they figure out ways around the insanity that is religion merging with science. How do the religious people feel about that?

This, I agree with.