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      Lucid Dreaming - The Devil?

      I didn't want to bother searching all 11 pages for this topic, and I don't think the search would fine broad threads about this topic. Anyways, here it goes.

      Since I became interested in lucid dreaming, two people (Christians) have warned me that lucid dreaming is the devil playing tricks on your mind. I don't believe in Christianity at all, so it doesn't bother; I just want to hear what some of you guys have to say about it. I think it's ridiculous.

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      The inane ramblings of ignorant morons.

      I mean, it only makes sense if you ignore everything we know about neurology, physiology, logic, reason...

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      Haha, yeah. I don't understand why they let somebody decide how they should live there life, especially when there's much more evidence supporting the fact that Jesus doesn't exist than there is evidence that he does exist.

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      Haha, yeah. I don't understand why they let somebody decide how they should live there life, especially when there's much more evidence supporting the fact that Jesus doesn't exist than there is evidence that he does exist.
      Well, that's definitely debatable. But at any rate, as a Christian mysef there are things in the Bible I can use to support LDing and I have found nothing to say that it's wrong.

      Many Christians hate anything that they view as new age or as just different. If they are bothering you, I would ask them to find a scripture which talks about Lucid Dreams.

      A. They will probably get embarressed when they can't and won't bring it up again.

      B. They will compare it to divination or horoscopes or something. After telling them that you don't lucid dream to see the future, they shouldn't be able to come up with anything scriptoral.

      EDIT: Totally unrelated, is your sig a screenshot of you playing? I love that game. My name is Mr_HalfBaked, if you ever want to shoot up some zomba's.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Psychotherapist View Post
      I didn't want to bother searching all 11 pages for this topic, and I don't think the search would fine broad threads about this topic. Anyways, here it goes.

      Since I became interested in lucid dreaming, two people (Christians) have warned me that lucid dreaming is the devil playing tricks on your mind. I don't believe in Christianity at all, so it doesn't bother; I just want to hear what some of you guys have to say about it. I think it's ridiculous.

      - Psycho
      Ignore them, they seem like morons to me.They tell you something that has no scriptural basis, and even if there were, you can question the material and credibility of the scripture. Morons must be ignored and avoided at all costs.

      Steer clear, friend.

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      Perhaps you should try educating these "morons" instead of leaving them to stew in their own ignorance? These people obviously don't understand what lucid dreaming is. It would take a level of reasoning far below that of a dolt to come to the conclusion that lucid dreaming stems from anything evil.

      I'm sure your friends are just a little confused. Try breaking it down for them and explaining the basics to them first. There's no reason to cause any tension.

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      Yes, lucid dreaming is Satan eating your soul.
      Alright, being serious, I'm a Catholic and I have never hearn that dreaming or lucid dreaming is the devil. Don't listen to everyone you hear*, some people may call the naive =/
      May Lucifer give you many good dreams.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lucky27 View Post
      Perhaps you should try educating these "morons" instead of leaving them to stew in their own ignorance?
      If rational arguments worked on people who were religious, there'd be no religion.

      Trying to reason with dogma is not renowned for its results.
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      I think you should start telling a story of an awesome Lucid Dream you had around them, then just as its getting good start moving abruptly and speaking in tounges. That'll freak em out.

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      Lucid dreaming - the ultimate act of free will, given to us by a loving God, is in fact a trick of the Devil. Ergo, God = Devil?

      Seriosly, even when you look at it considering our reality as a crazy, quasi-christian universe, it doesn't make sense.

      I basically agree with everybody else in the thread. Ignorant, stupid Christians spouting bs. Oh... and you should do what ExoByte suggested, that would be awesome.
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      There's nothing wrong with lucid dreaming in and of itself. What you DO in your lucid dream, however, is debatable.
      There's nothing Scripturally wrong with LD's.
      Your friends may think lucid dreaming is something else (like divination). If they're people you can actually talk to, try explaining what LD-ing actually is. If they're strangers or closed-minded, don't worry about it.

      I'm Christian BTW.

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      Tell them that Christianity is the devil playing tricks on them and that Jesus is Satanic.
      How do you know you are not dreaming right now?

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      There's lucid dreaming references in the Bible, somewhere.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      Tell them that Christianity is the devil playing tricks on them and that Jesus is Satanic.
      Lol on multiple levels.
      You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Psychotherapist View Post
      I didn't want to bother searching all 11 pages for this topic, and I don't think the search would fine broad threads about this topic. Anyways, here it goes.

      Since I became interested in lucid dreaming, two people (Christians) have warned me that lucid dreaming is the devil playing tricks on your mind. I don't believe in Christianity at all, so it doesn't bother; I just want to hear what some of you guys have to say about it. I think it's ridiculous.

      - Psycho
      Some christians told me something similar (my family). And this really pisses me off because christians (and people really) fear what they don't know. They believe (literally) that everything and anything outside of the bible is the devil. Tell them to go fuck themselves with a cross shaped dildo.
      Things are not as they seem

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      That's bullshit. I'm a Christian and lucid dreaming is certainly not from the frigging devil. You just need a tiny fragment of knowledge about the nature of consciousness to understand this.

      We imagine things every day being conscious. The only difference with sleep is that the imagery is more vivid. That's all it. The devil my arse.

      Lucid dreaming is a GIFT from God.
      The starz...
      The planets...
      The intricate and dynamic machinery of nature...
      Are you saying,
      that all of this was created,
      BY A MONKEY??????

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      Quote Originally Posted by guitarboy View Post
      I'm a Catholic
      The starz...
      The planets...
      The intricate and dynamic machinery of nature...
      Are you saying,
      that all of this was created,
      BY A MONKEY??????

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      My parents are vehemently against me talking to my sisters about LDing(one of which is about 100x better at achieving them than me, and she's 12)

      Even though me teaching my 12 y/o sister about them caused her to be able to confront a recurring nightmare that she'd been having for about 3 months.

      My mother's remedy to stop them...? She said to "call out the name of 'Jesus' and the demons will flee".

      Because apparently bad dreams are demons that are in your room.

      And the night my sister went lucid and confronted her nightmare she hasn't had another one since(in about 4 months). Suck on that, Jesus.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Idolfan View Post
      I'm an atheist. You can cry yourself to sleep tonight.

      My parents are vehemently against me talking to my sisters about LDing
      I'm sorry that you have such unenlightened, foolish parents.

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      Yeah, me too.

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      The trick is to deny as much of your rational human abilities as possible until god saves you. Christians must be sick in the head.

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      Fear of hell and the devil is what is wrong with Christianity.
      This was that cult, and the prisoners said it had always existed and always would exist, hidden in distant wastes and dark places all over the world until the time when the great priest Cthulhu, from his dark house in the mighty city of R'lyeh under the waters, should rise and bring the earth again beneath his sway.

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      Everyone has very interesting ideas, and I thought the thread would sway to my side...thanks for all of the responses!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Psychotherapist View Post
      two people (Christians) have warned me that lucid dreaming is the devil playing tricks on your mind.
      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      Tell them that Christianity is the devil playing tricks on them and that Jesus is Satanic.
      epic lol

      I'm gonna sig that.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Photolysis View Post
      I'm an atheist. You can cry yourself to sleep tonight.
      Atheists are about 10,000,000,000,000 times better than Catholics.
      The starz...
      The planets...
      The intricate and dynamic machinery of nature...
      Are you saying,
      that all of this was created,
      BY A MONKEY??????

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