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      What Dreams May Come

      Has anyone read this book or watched the film based on the book? If so, what are your thoughts on it?
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      What is the book or film about? never heard of it.
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      Is it the one with robin williams.If it is then it has some stunning visual effects.Considering the fact that it was 11 years ago.

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      Yeah I saw the movie. Made me sad.

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      Judging on the movie since I haven't read the book, it seems to me that the only point it neglected to make was that even the heaven he finds himself in is governed by a set of rules created solely from belief. They point out that the physical reality is an illusion (Cuba Gooding Jr.'s line "Thought is real. Physical is the illusion. Ironic, huh?") What they miss is the next step. Jonathan Livinston Seagull is a story that sort of mimics the same theme but then picks up where What dreams May Come leaves off.

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      Fortunately, we were able to see some of the capabilities that a consciousness could do in the film. The story was centered more on the love between Any and her husband than the celestial plane they were in. It's a fascinating film. It was the film that opened my perception on spirituality when I was an atheist.

      Where does Seagull's story lead to?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Absolute View Post
      Fortunately, we were able to see some of the capabilities that a consciousness could do in the film. The story was centered more on the love between Any and her husband than the celestial plane they were in. It's a fascinating film. It was the film that opened my perception on spirituality when I was an atheist.

      Where does Seagull's story lead to?
      Well, you should read it, but like the section of "what dreams may come" in which the main character is transitioning into heaven and is coming to terms with "the way things really work", Jonathan Seagull, after learning to fly better than any other gull on earth, transcends to a heaven in which he has to learn all over again how to formulate his view of the world. Eventually though, jonathan comes to learn that the next step isn't a final heaven, but just another step and that he will have to/be able to learn all over again how things really really work in the next step. What bothered me about "what dreams may come" was specifically about the love story aspect of it; I couldn't help but wonder why they decided to go back to earth together to do it all over again when they were with each other in the next life and could just as easily stay together into the next, and the next, and so forth.

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      Well, you should read it, but like the section of "what dreams may come" in which the main character is transitioning into heaven and is coming to terms with "the way things really work", Jonathan Seagull, after learning to fly better than any other gull on earth, transcends to a heaven in which he has to learn all over again how to formulate his view of the world. Eventually though, jonathan comes to learn that the next step isn't a final heaven, but just another step and that he will have to/be able to learn all over again how things really really work in the next step. What bothered me about "what dreams may come" was specifically about the love story aspect of it; I couldn't help but wonder why they decided to go back to earth together to do it all over again when they were with each other in the next life and could just as easily stay together into the next, and the next, and so forth.
      I know! That totally pissed me off. Why would you go back after all that trouble? I'd just stay in the eternal existence, forever being happy and together.
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      "Life is much like a barren road. You can choose to leave it and end up in a deserted wasteland, or you can follow the road to see what is beyond the horizon."

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