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      I haven't read the whole wall yet, but I shall pounce on this bit.

      The devil has worked very hard, primarily through communications media such as TV, movies, news journalists, and entertainment in general to convince women that marriage is detrimental to their freedom and fulfillment in life. Satan has deceived women into believing that they have the same sexual desire as men and that all differences are the result of culture.
      So which media outlet does the devil work for then? Is he behind a desk somewhere, sinisterly putting together everything that goes out on TV, radio, the internet and newspapers? And I suppose God is up there organising broadcasts for the God Channel, and is behind the wave of fundamentalist christianity which is growing in the UK? Culture and the media is created/maintained/changed by people, the devil or God have nothing to do with it.

      I can't believe people actually say shit like that. "Rock n roll's the devil's work, it'll lead you to damnation!" It's the work of the fucking band who wrote it! Or, "Look at the genocide in Darfur, there's no doubt that Satan exists!" It's not "the devil"'s fault, it's the fault of the men who run rampage with machine guns!

      Satan does not control any aspect of society, it's a ridiculous concept. Society evolves over time as a result of innumerable factors. People, experience, technology, government, communication etc. None of them the devil.

      At the time that this manual was being written, and for the remainder of the time left in this age, the one word that describes the condition of the world is change. All of this change is being accomplished through the work of Satan, as he cannot tolerate anything that originated from God's creation.
      Change eh? The devil must have had a hand in Obama's election campaign!
      So every "change" to society, every new invention, every advancement in science, medical breakthrough or cultural revolution is the work of the devil? This is extreme conservatism, only an absolute idiot would think like this.
      Stone-Age extreme conservative man: "Ugghh, me no like hot fire, put it out, no light again!" And thus, Stone-Age extreme conservative man holds up the advancement of the species immeasurably. Fear of "change" can only slow the human race down.

      "Me no like hot fire!"

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      Good read, thanks for sharing
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      Check this out refering to the mark of the beast being on your hand and only being able to buy things if you have this mark.

      http://www.infowars.com/print/bb/bajaimplant.htm
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      Quote Originally Posted by Idolfan View Post
      It was necessary. Most Christians can't see evidence when it's right in front of their face, so I figured letter largering would be needed to make them notice it more clearly. Just common logic.
      It was not necessary. You've done it far too many times before and been warned to know that.

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      Such cool-aid pushing cowardice is the reason for most the insanity of this world, and why NOTHING will be done to stave off these WHOLLY PREVENTABLE inevitable outcomes of your lazy faith without works.

      You allow the message of true faith as Jesus taught to be corrupted by the victor who wrote the history books. The Bible was re-written by the same murderers who crucified him!

      It has become a twisted fantasy designed to terrify people, to beat them down until their will is broken so they are left cowering slaves to do the bidding of some imaginary lord, and those in power who sell you these LIES are all too willing to step into those absent shoes and rule over their imagined clever sabotage.

      Your trauma with the mortal condition has resulted in such radical detachment from reality you can no longer tell truth from fiction, good from evil, and rely on dogma written by the conquerors of justice to interpret the living Faith for you. Thus our species has set itself upon thousands of years of downward spiraling into dark ages of Stockholm syndrome and fearful self-defeat.

      Relying on faith in times of tragedy which occurs every day has resulted in a compulsion that virtually worships and even creates more unnecessary tragedy, as if any true benevolent God would make such a point, or need your pathetic help proving it. I’m not even convinced your INTENTIONS are in the right place anymore.

      You become the antithesis of all you proclaim because the misery you are escaping has become intertwined with how you celebrate your escape, like your faith NEEDS misery to prove its point!

      You alienate and judge and socially stigmatize your own people for not regurgitating misguided cliche, whether you believe or understand the meaning yourself.

      Ultimate hypocrisy…

      You mutilate your infant male children’s genitalia for the purpose of causing misery and suffering and weakness and compliance to slavery, and so they never know or enjoy the beauty of sex as any true benevolent God intended, by millions of years of evolution, because you got in your sadistic, witch burning, self-defeating little minds that this was somehow ugly and sinful.

      As we speak, there is a conspiracy of wealthy atheists and disenchanted former Christians arranging to bring you all the misery you demand. We are sending probes with mass-driver engines to objects in the asteroid belt to re-direct them at key points on Earth, to mimic “natural” disasters.

      We have infiltrated the world's government and economy arena and colluded to keep you from demanding a solution that DOES exist. You are conditioned by your hateful suicidal propaganda to give up, to surrender your will, to be a broken slave with no desire to better yourself or participate in what could save this world.

      Selfish lazy cowards!

      You are conditioned to fight public housing and medicine and any other benevolent social welfare based on our collective good will and abundance because these same tyrants are intelligent enough, unlike you, to see what would SOLVE this dilemma and prevent any of this from happening.

      As it is we are DEFENSELESS against MAN-made bio-terrorism. It is the greatest threat we have ever faced yet we do NOTHING, nor do we even talk about it publicly on ANY major news network because we have been conditioned by hateful suicidal propaganda to ignore it and even CELEBRATE the coming GENOCIDE that has nothing to do with God, but all the evil characteristics of your fictional Satan.

      ALL it would take is a national public housing initiative and secure essential resource distribution network, engineered with basic air filtration on a closed-circuit. Mass-produced, modular, and in compliance with the green initiative.

      Offered as an opt-in that ALL citizens qualified for, without having to work a day in their life to deserve this minimal essential standard of our abundance and technological means to manifest all we need to survive comfortably into the future, no matter what may come.

      Yet the enemy of man has poisoned your minds and you Christians have lost the message of Jesus, and fail to see how faith without works is dead, and that all that is necessary for these evil people to succeed is for otherwise good people to curl up into a self-defeated little puddle like you and do nothing, aside from spreading their message of futility and pretending you're helping anyone.

      I have done everything in my power to save you. I have given you all the tools and all the knowledge you would require. You have rejected my teachings and made an enemy of the solution.

      Set up your straw men of ACORN and ObamaCare to intentionally fail, to further discourage people from pursuing the necessary right-doing of these fundamental pillars of a sustainable civilization. As if your inability to solve a Rubik’s cube makes the problem unsolvable!

      How selfish and ultimately suicidal of you!

      Now, see the lie consume itself. I’m not even an atheist, and yet I am just as disgusted with my “brothers’” cowardice and refusal to do what is necessary and right.

      You think spreading this message of futility and terror is doing what is right? Terrify people into a faith that advocates doing NOTHING? You are as bad as the terrorists, and a thousand times more dangerous, because you have all the technology to actually pull it off, and destroy the entire world as SACRIFICE to your RELIGIOUS BLINDNESS.

      There IS a solution. It isn’t like such a simple public housing and resource management network is all that much harder than going to the moon, and we did that HALF A CENTURY AGO.

      WAKE UP! What the hell happened to you people?

      “Lead, follow, or get out of the way!” -Idiocracy
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      What.
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      No offense intended brother, but I believe the premise in your signature to be flawed. If Frédéric Bastiat were to proclaim that nonsense in modern times he would be rightly seen as a fool, of the ilk that would cultivate a self-righteous sense of superiority through imagined clever little quips such as this.

      He appears to suggest that man seeking to live at the “expense” or rather, by the collective MEANS of man, is somehow a BAD thing.

      Take the invention of the plow and simple irrigation systems for example, which allowed in ancient times for the efficient production of exponentially greater yields, which in turn was able to provide for exponentially more people, with the same or less manual labor involved.

      That is the nature and purpose of technology.

      Now that we have abundant means to achieve this minimal standard with never before imagined efficiency, to refuse to do so because of some propaganda that says communism is bad or nationalization of essential resources in such an accountable model for public housing and secure resource distribution as my previous post alluded towards the end would have anything to do with communism, would amount to little more than suicide by laziness.

      Yet we regularly proclaim those who advocate this sane and rational evolution to be lazy. We assume man must toil for his daily bread, even in an age when we have bread WASTING in abundance. Such is of the programmed mindset of a slave with little or no sense of self-determination.

      Or fascism of the worst kind, which seeks to perform genocide by encouraging our neglect of these essential things…

      So they don’t have to lift a finger to sow their hatred upon the mediocre soil of our wasted future.

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      Quote Originally Posted by AlienDiplomat View Post
      No offense intended brother, but I believe the premise in your signature to be flawed. If Frédéric Bastiat were to proclaim that nonsense in modern times he would be rightly seen as a fool, of the ilk that would cultivate a self-righteous sense of superiority through imagined clever little quips such as this.

      He appears to suggest that man seeking to live at the “expense” or rather, by the collective MEANS of man, is somehow a BAD thing.

      Take the invention of the plow and simple irrigation systems for example, which allowed in ancient times for the efficient production of exponentially greater yields, which in turn was able to provide for exponentially more people, with the same or less manual labor involved.

      That is the nature and purpose of technology.
      The quote isn't so much about how living off of each other's achievements is bad. In fact, it's good, and Bastiat would probably agree. But to Bastiat, the people in the State live at the expense of everyone else, and do so harmfully. There's no real harm in creating a better life for yourself by using the irrigation practices people had developed. Doing so doesn't hurt anyone, and in fact helps them. Creating a better like for yourself by stealing people's money and giving yourself special privileges on the other hand...

      Now that we have abundant means to achieve this minimal standard with never before imagined efficiency, to refuse to do so because of some propaganda that says communism is bad or nationalization of essential resources in such an accountable model for public housing and secure resource distribution as my previous post alluded towards the end would have anything to do with communism, would amount to little more than suicide by laziness.

      Yet we regularly proclaim those who advocate this sane and rational evolution to be lazy. We assume man must toil for his daily bread, even in an age when we have bread WASTING in abundance. Such is of the programmed mindset of a slave with little or no sense of self-determination.

      Or fascism of the worst kind, which seeks to perform genocide by encouraging our neglect of these essential things…

      So they don’t have to lift a finger to sow their hatred upon the mediocre soil of our wasted future.
      To be honest, I'm having a hard time following your train of thought here. You go from some statements on communism, to toiling for bread, to fascism...Clarification please?

      Edit - Furthermore, this doesn't belong in Religion/Spirituality
      Last edited by BLUELINE976; 01-03-2011 at 10:44 AM.
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      The tyrant goes by many names; evil is evil whether done under the banner of communism or fascism or capitalism or benevolence.

      I think I see the angle now. I suppose you’d have to take it in context and I confess I’m not familiar with this person’s work outside the quote.

      To clarify what I am saying…

      None of the problems we face today are insurmountable due to technical limitation. The limitation now resides squarely on our own defeatist attitudes, inherited over generations of these things being lumped into the “can’t do anything about it” category.

      It is understandable, but not acceptable now, particularly for our world leaders, to so be so cavalier and dismiss the threat as something they “just don’t think will happen,” because it’s easier to prey on people’s false sense of security than encourage spending where we really need it.

      It is the same nature as what you describe living off others parasitically. But they aren’t stupid. Then know how to twist our own words and traditions against us, by manipulating the context by any and every means available to encourage the sort of behavior that serves their agenda, of not having to allow for trickle-down of even that much.

      I suppose my frustration is with the absence of awareness of the nature of the threat, and the prevailing self-determinist, tea-partier, navi-tribe seeking false sense of security, as if we could scare away the ICBM’s with torches and pitchforks and shoot the nanomachines out of the air with militia rifles.

      There is a reason we have a central government. It is an evolutionary apparatus designed as a pool we all throw into in order to fund and administrate those essential things an individual cannot possibly be expected to secure themselves, but which are necessary to our survival and way of life.

      Things like RELEVANT national security and a charitable social welfare program.

      Jesus would advocate these things. The 144 thousand witnesses would advocate these things.

      Do we really need to blow ourselves to hell before we can give ourselves permission to go there?

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      Quote Originally Posted by kingerman View Post
      [...] and lesbian relationships highly encouraged. [...]
      I can see how lesbian relationships would be encouraged..
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      Please don't post in really old threads... especially if what you say doesn't have much relevance to the thread, although I'm having a tough time working out what you did say.

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      oh snap.. you're right.. it is old O_o

      and yeah.. would've been better to quote some stuff.. FIXED!

      One serious question though: I've never seen the problem in ressurrecting an old thread, though DV generally discourages people from doing so. How come?

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      Quote Originally Posted by CryoDragoon View Post
      oh snap.. you're right.. it is old O_o

      and yeah.. would've been better to quote some stuff.. FIXED!

      One serious question though: I've never seen the problem in ressurrecting an old thread, though DV generally discourages people from doing so. How come?
      It depends on what the next person posts, the content of the thread, and the original poster when they try to resurrect it. For more Information, see: http://www.dreamviews.com/f17/necro-...-not-do-74654/

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      Why is it that when there are "signs" of a nation's possible termination, the irrational minds of some men will start blaming its destruction to be a cause of divine intervention? What does the destruction of the nations that came before us, in comparison to the possible so forth destruction of modern society mean, to those that make these claims? That the nations of past don't count, but this time, is the actual time of divine judgment?
      I stomp on your ideas.

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      Quote Originally Posted by CryoDragoon View Post
      oh snap.. you're right.. it is old O_o

      and yeah.. would've been better to quote some stuff.. FIXED!

      One serious question though: I've never seen the problem in ressurrecting an old thread, though DV generally discourages people from doing so. How come?
      I wasn't talking to you... I was talking to the guy who actually posted in an old thread.

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      Original Poster:

      You left out the whole part about Mohammed! What if people haven't been following the Koran? Are they infidels too? Will you be saved if you haven't made your pilgrimage to Mecca but are planning on it? Air travel is very expensive these days and my family doesn't have the funds...will we be spared at "The Rapture?"

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      Kingerman's post is the reason we can't have nice things, like peace.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mario92 View Post
      *Walks in, all cool-like. BAM! Runs into epic wall of text.*

      Anyone want to summarize that?
      Simple.

      Jesus hates you. Believe in our doctrine and wait for that which will never come. Donate to church please thanks bye.
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      This was that cult, and the prisoners said it had always existed and always would exist, hidden in distant wastes and dark places all over the world until the time when the great priest Cthulhu, from his dark house in the mighty city of R'lyeh under the waters, should rise and bring the earth again beneath his sway.

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