Thread: Everybody Draw Mohammed Day!

dude... santa claus was in the bear suit.

He was? wtf? Man I didn't even see the episode. And if that's true then that's even more pathetic.

I also first heard about this from this article. http://www.thegoodatheist.net/2010/0...n-of-mohammed/

Mother fucker thinks 9/11 was justified.

I'd be lying if I said I don't find such things wrong and disrespectful. I do think they overreact though. I watched both episodes and they weren't that horrific and if was funny to see how comedy central chickened out in the end.

It's the same with internet trolls. The angrier you get the more likely they are to continue trolling you. Here in Germany, joking on Nazis or Hitler etc. would get you some pretty hefty reactions, so people respect the fact and normally just stay out of it.

Originally Posted by CanceledCzech

My response: "Ok, hold on a second, I just need to finish this cartoon of Mohammed giving me a blow-job."*

There's the troll mentality right there. What are you trying to prove? Who are you trying to impress? Why do you have this inexplicable urge to stir anger?

How would you feel if somebody used the American flag for [Insert demeaning action here]? You don't deserve death, but you're still wrong for bashing other peoples beliefs; just leave them be.

Originally Posted by Paraknight

Here in Germany, joking on Nazis or Hitler etc. would get you some pretty hefty reactions, so people respect the fact and normally just stay out of it.

1. It's not about making fun of Mohammad, just drawing him at all.
2. Mohammad didn't kill 11 million people.


I have no problem with anyone's beliefs, untill they try to push them on me. That I have a problem with. And if they think I should die for not following their beliefs...

Originally Posted by Paraknight

There's the troll mentality right there. What are you trying to prove? Who are you trying to impress? Why do you have this inexplicable urge to stir anger?

You miss the point entirely.

Spoiler for spoiler-tagged due to polite request:

This. This image right here is reason enough for an Islamic extremist to kill me. What some people (myself included) want to prove is that we don't care about their death threats. Inexplicable urge to stir anger? I'm not stirring anger for anger's sake.

How would I feel if someone drew a picture of someone, lets say, wiping their ass or pissing on the American flag? It would probably be, literally, "haha, what the fuck?" and from there I'd try to see if there is a message that is being conveyed, and if so, try to figure out what that message is (probably "fuck the USA" which is a completely reasonable sentiment to feel).

http://www.thegoodatheist.net/2010/0...n-of-mohammed/

The video in this article sums up everything.

Originally Posted by CanceledCzech

if you think I deserve death for such a sentence, then do us all a favor and swallow a grenade.

Careful what you wish for - that IS their preferred way of delivering death.

Originally Posted by Replicon

Careful what you wish for - that IS their preferred way of delivering death.

Haha, well, preferably they'd be swallowing that shrapnel in a deserted area alone - away from other people.

That's really disrespectful. While I don't agree with killing someone over a picture, I think people should be respectful of other people's belief. My religion doesn't allow one to draw our prophet Mohammed(pbuh) for respect, etc.... and I think people should respect that just like I respect other people's religious and non-religious beliefs and I don't force my beliefs onto others just like I don't expect others to do so

Within the religion of Islam, they most certainly can say one cannot depict Mohammad. However, I don't feel they have the right to enforce that for people of other religions. It would be like the DEA arresting a Dutch person for smoking pot.

Originally Posted by BigFan

That's really disrespectful. While I don't agree with killing someone over a picture, I think people should be respectful of other people's belief. My religion doesn't allow one to draw our prophet Mohammed(pbuh) for respect, etc.... and I think people should respect that just like I respect other people's religious and non-religious beliefs and I don't force my beliefs onto others just like I don't expect others to do so

That's cool man. But how about we just leave it at "Muslims should not be allowed to draw the prophet"? I'm not Muslim, why should I not be allowed to draw him?

In any case, I'll put the drawing in spoiler tags if it offends you. Like you said, no one should die over a drawing, but if you find it disrespectful, I'll cooperate with you because that's what civilized people do.

The moment you tell me that you are going to kill me like a dog in the streets is the moment I start drawing pictures of the prophet doing the most foul acts humanity can imagine.

Originally Posted by BigFan

That's really disrespectful. While I don't agree with killing someone over a picture, I think people should be respectful of other people's belief. My religion doesn't allow one to draw our prophet Mohammed(pbuh) for respect, etc.... and I think people should respect that just like I respect other people's religious and non-religious beliefs and I don't force my beliefs onto others just like I don't expect others to do so

bullshit

you can apply religion to all aspects of your living, and as an example, extremists are doing just that

where along the respectful bullshit do we stand up against what is wrong, extremism, death threats to censor. no matter how small it is (not that those things are small) they should be rebelled against with great protest

i do not hold respect for any religion whatsoever. imo you're all idiots for your beliefs, and asking for respect (in the form of doing or not doing something) from anyone that isn't brainwashed/a believer, is an infringement on personal freedom, especially when rightful disobedience is punished with death threats and hatefulness

fuck tolerance of intolerance.

Have I told you that I love you?

I do not respect that which does not respect me.

Spoiler for Muslim Prophet:

Originally Posted by ClouD

is an infringement on personal freedom, especially when rightful disobedience is punished with death threats and hatefulness

Contradicting. They choose to believe in a God. Its their personal freedom to be religious, and your post is punishing them with hatefulness. Don't come up with BS about people being brainwashed and blah blah. Not everyone is involved in some cult made by a psychopath.
I think we should respect peoples beliefs and opinions. But they should respect ours in return, by respecting the fact we disagree - especially if those views are just plain wrong.

Originally Posted by Loaf

Contradicting. They choose to believe in a God. Its their personal freedom to be religious, and your post is punishing them with hatefulness. Don't come up with BS about people being brainwashed and blah blah. Not everyone is involved in some cult made by a psychopath.
I think we should respect peoples beliefs and opinions. But they should respect ours in return, by respecting the fact we disagree - especially if those views are just plain wrong.

religion AKA belief is all shit. if EVERYTHING isn't taken with scepticism then there's only idiocy in it's place. brainwashing causes the majority of 'religiousness', your geographical location or indoctrinated upbringing being a major cause in tampering your logic drive.

it's their personal freedom to also cause hundreds of wars, to kill millions of people, to molest humanity with unproven hopes that must be defended so harshly only so they are not questioned or exposed. all in the name of religiousness and which apparently should be respected? as i said, where do we stand against this? when the little tolerance of intolerance we give for trivial injustices grows into genocide?

it is their personal freedom to kill me, to censor me, to make me live in fear and to abandon reality. it is my personal freedom to stand up against all that injustice, without tolerance for intolerance.

i don't see anyone agreeing to disagree, i see terrorists and idiots imposing their rules onto others, and realistically, i impose upon that imposition.

I have no respect for someone who gets offended over a drawing. a DRAWING. neither of those doodles should be in spoiler tags. they are harmless doodles for christ's sake. why should anyone have respect for such a tedious, petty, assinine belief? here's an idea: let's, as humans, stop getting our panties in a knot over bullshit like this, and start getting more offended over ACTUALLY OFFENSIVE THINGS, like I dunno poverty, starvation, diseases, the fact that there are people who actually exist that believe it's ok to murder a fellow human being over a CARTOON...the rape of children? :')

ClouD hit it dead center.

If i don't believe in your religion, then i am not bound by your religious laws (or at least i'm not supposed to be). You are however bound by my country's law (or at least you're supposed to be).

Being the man i am i'll leave you to your beliefs and not impede upon them AS LONG AS THEY DO NOT IMPEDE UPON MY FREEDOMS.

The Islamic faith creates extremists that do this very thing, they believe their religion to be the supreme ultimate religion that others MUST conform to or DIE to an extreme context.

Watch Religulous with Bill Maher

I myself am an artist and an American, if i want to draw Jesus, Krishna, Vishnu, Mohammed, Allah, God(christian perspective), or any other deity i'll do so. I don't care what your religious text says BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE IN THEM. I will respect your human rights, but your religious rights STOP just on the line of you and me, between the believer and non-believer. This is why there is (supposed to be) separation of Church & State in this country, so that no one religion can strip any person from any belief of their basic freedoms and rights as a human being and as an American.

It is ridiculous that this is tolerated at all, the American government is ignoring the American people's rights by allowing this religion to make these "Warnings" to non-believers... for once i wish the government of this country would stand up for a damn American citizen and back him/her all the way through this shit.

Also, our government is spying on our every move, 11yr old kids are being "accidentally" listed as terrorists, they "find" terrorists through networks all the time supposedly. But this group of radicals are allowed to "very well wordily" call for the death of american citizens... pretty fucked up

I'll draw what i want to draw when i want to draw it how i want to draw it, and i couldn't care less what your deity thinks or what your religious text says. Because that's what artists do, we are inspired and we express it through our art.

Spoiler for my personal opinion of Islam specifically:

1) Islam calls for non-believers to be terrorized, that means the entire religious body of Islam are terrorists. By being a part of the religion you support it, by supporting it you condone the word of your god, by condoning the word of your god you're acting as an enabler for the extremists...

STOP ENABLING MURDER

2) Our government is either in some sort of partnership with the Islamic nation that they do not want to endanger by going after this "Revolution muslim" and those like them or they could just give a fuck less about american rights and the entire "war on terror" is a bullshit sandwhich they hope we'll eat.

Edit: EXACTLY! nerve stated it perfectly, there are hundreds more things in this world worth putting effort into rather than having petty wars over religions... for fuck sake we're in the 21st century.... we honestly haven't dropped religion as a reason to kill each other yet???
Money, religion, and power are the things which will destroy us as a race.

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The views herein this post are of my own personal beliefs and do not reflect or represent the opinion(s) or idea(s) of the Dreamviews staff or the site itself, but are solely my own.

Spoiler for 5 minutes in paint.:

Oh yah.. I went there.

I went out of my way to make this offensive. If you don't want to be offended, do not click.

If you do click anyway and are still offended...my original idea was much, much worse so be thankful I was too lazy to draw it.

Spoiler for Respecting Women and Spreading Peace:

I am not respecting war and death. I am saying if you don't respect belief and opinion, don't expect to have you views respected either. There's a better way to go about it then posting rude hateful messages. Rather disappointing that so many people here are more than happy to bash people up because they don't support what they say.

Also, lol'd at these bad paint images.

you're interpreting us wrong Loaf, we're not stating that we would rather disrespect this belief. We're stating that the radicals and extremists of the religion are imposing on our rights and freedoms. We're stating that they have no right to threaten us because we choose express our opinions.

If this were Christians, i would be saying the same thing.... it's not the religion Loaf, it's the ignorant extremists that misinterpret the meaning of their religion and commit murder, abuse and belittle others, and wage war in the name of the religion.

Loaf, in their eyes you DO NOT have any right whatsoever at all to sit down in your own home and draw a picture of Muhammad without deserving your throat cut my friend. Think about that, to them you deserve your head blown off for drawing that picture, because they read their religious text the wrong way....

This is what we're speaking of, though the religion also commits other atrocities against basic human freedoms.

It's our freedoms being threatened, even more so our lives by these religions. Do you think it right that i cannot draw a picture of my interpretation of their god to share in a discussion about him without having the chance of being murdered?

It's an American thing, you try to take our freedoms, we get pissed about it. Nowadays though our government seems to care more for the overhead rather than the quality of life and allotment of proper freedoms to the ones making their overhead...

(also, CC, i'm not jacking your thread, i'll have a proper good picture for you in a bit lol but until then
)

Huh.
Well, I drew one. There was another one with him standing in a skirt next to a box of tampons, but I figured that was a bit much.
Instead, here he is in his underpants with round bear feet.

Spoiler for Offensive:

I drew a Mohammed and I sat on it.

So if I started drawing hateful comics of Jews, African-Americans, Mexicans, Asians etc. would it be all right?
The way I see it, nobody deserves to die for expressing themselves, be it artistically or otherwise, but ffs people, show some respect.