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      Evidence Supporting An Afterlife?


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      He does not seem to be giving proper consideration to the possibility that 'near death experiences' are always similar due to an underlying physical process which occurs in most all humans in those situations. Analogy:

      Proof that when we die, we feel like we are stuck full of needles for eternity: There are thousands of accounts of people feeling 'thousands of needles' pricking their legs when blood flow is restricted to them. Even people who aren't familiar with the cultural or religious phenomenon of needle-pricking eternity report 'sharp prods', etc. If the restriction of blood flow is continued, then the body part eventually ceases to feel anything and will die. This must be proof that it transcends cultural conceptions and provides strong evidence for a needle-filled afterlife.

      Basically, the problem is that this is evidence for a universal response to a catastrophic physical event. These people did not actually die, they merely came close. Experiences when close to death, though interesting, do not tell us anything about what 'happens to us' when we are actually dead. I put that in quotes because it is my fairly firm belief that what happens to us is that we are dead.
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      Wait, where is the evidence? I don't see it.

      Edit: thegnome54 made a good point so I'll repeat it. These people did not actually die.

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      Needle filled afterlife!

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      I'm with thegnome54. Sure, people's experiences are similar, but I'd be more inclined to think along the lines of some kind of "last-resort" mechanism built into all human brains- with the sole function of hiding the true terror of death and working as an alternative to fear. Like how people sometimes automatically disassociate from themselves in extremely stressful situations to avoid facing it.

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      Agreed. When people nearly die, they may experience similar sensations and hallucinations because we are all humans and have similar brain chemistry. Doesn't prove the existence of an afterlife.
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      Quote Originally Posted by MementoMori View Post
      I know this: When i was 7 i was hit by a car going 35mph and lived without any seriose perminent disabilities (very thankful). On the way to the hospital the doctor said i died. I remember "falling asleep" and "waking to paddles shocking me. I didn't see a light at the end of a tunnel, or heaven or hell or angels or anything like that, but what i did experience was a feeling of pure euphoria, and i felt my body expand and become umeasurably large. my "mind" wasn't feeling, tasting, hearing, or seeing anything at all... what it was doing was thinking on a giagantic scale i had so much explode in my mind that i felt like i was more than what i was before it happened. It was like i ate a million suns, each going supernova at different times.... then i awoke in a hospital bed to EMPs ressecitating me.... Trust me if that was death then no one in the world has anything to fear about it.
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      What a terrible experience (the fact you came close to dying, the expanding thing sounds awesome)!

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      I would like to read his book regardless. I would like to see what actual evidence he does provide if any. The book is less than $20 on Amazon so it's not much of an investment =P

      Also, just a question to the people who say "since we all have similar brain chemistry" why would the brain choose "Love" to fill us up (when it does for those people) in there experience? Of course nobdy truly knows, but I'm just asking to see what you think it could be.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Loaf View Post
      What a terrible experience (the fact you came close to dying, the expanding thing sounds awesome)!
      Doesn't sound very terrible to me. I mean maybe during the experience it might of been frightening to know you were dying (though, I do not fear death). But I would love to live through an experience like MementoMori's!
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