Thread: The SSILD test. - 30 days.

Originally Posted by Tiresias

PennyRoyale, this is a bit much to ask, but can you detail how you are doing the SSILD method. I want to see your take on it since you are getting very good results right out the gate.

It's no problem.

I don't use SSILD when I go to bed at night. I'll remind myself of my goals in my Dreamjournal and think about them when I go to sleep. I tend to wake up naturally around 2am, which for me is about 4 hours of sleep.

When i get my natural awakening I use the bathroom if I need to, drink some water, etc.. No more than usually 5-10 minutes. When I try to do cycles without getting up I fall asleep before I can even finish the first one sometimes. I'll do 2-3 quick cycles, then 3 or 4 regular ones.

When I'm done - sometimes I'll roll over and go to sleep, or I try to do all three parts of the cycle simultaneously until I fall asleep just because I find it makes me fall asleep pretty fast.

I often get multiple natural awakenings during the night. I try to do this every time one of those occurs - but at least once a night.

Really good job penny. Glad to see you sticking with this thread. I still SSILD, but only when I "feel" it. Very good technique.

Originally Posted by PennyRoyal

It's no problem.

I don't use SSILD when I go to bed at night. I'll remind myself of my goals in my Dreamjournal and think about them when I go to sleep. I tend to wake up naturally around 2am, which for me is about 4 hours of sleep.

When i get my natural awakening I use the bathroom if I need to, drink some water, etc.. No more than usually 5-10 minutes. When I try to do cycles without getting up I fall asleep before I can even finish the first one sometimes. I'll do 2-3 quick cycles, then 3 or 4 regular ones.

When I'm done - sometimes I'll roll over and go to sleep, or I try to do all three parts of the cycle simultaneously until I fall asleep just because I find it makes me fall asleep pretty fast.

I often get multiple natural awakenings during the night. I try to do this every time one of those occurs - but at least once a night.

PennyRoyal, may I ask if you were having trouble falling back to sleep and started doing all three simultaneously to help that? That is my one challenge with the method it seems to wake me up a lot but I did have success with it last night and had my first two false awakenings which were completely lucid instantly due to feeling a floating sensation and had a wonderful lucid dream! I did also tweak it a little bit after 6 short cycles(must have been super tired) I was already starting to get the mini dreams and started playing with those images and next thing I remember I had the false awakenings.

Originally Posted by PennyRoyal

Score: 11 Nights, 4 Successful (6 Lucids, 0 FA)[/B]

Those 6 lucids are from SSILD? :-) How effective do you consider SSILD compared to any other methods you like?

Originally Posted by fogelbise

PennyRoyal, may I ask if you were having trouble falling back to sleep and started doing all three simultaneously to help that? That is my one challenge with the method it seems to wake me up a lot but I did have success with it last night and had my first two false awakenings which were completely lucid instantly due to feeling a floating sensation and had a wonderful lucid dream! I did also tweak it a little bit after 6 short cycles(must have been super tired) I was already starting to get the mini dreams and started playing with those images and next thing I remember I had the false awakenings.

The first week I had trouble falling asleep, although now I have trouble completing a full cycle because I'm falling asleep pretty fast. Yes, I came up with 3 parts simultaneously to help me fall asleep. It seems to help.

Originally Posted by LetoDK

Those 6 lucids are from SSILD? :-) How effective do you consider SSILD compared to any other methods you like?

Yea from SSILD.

Last month I used MILD and had 5 total I think? I had those 6 the first week of april using SSILD. I'd say it's been effective for me

Thanks for the reply PennyRoyal

I had some company this past weekend and didn't attempt SSILD, im not going to count those days.

Day 12 and 13 - 1 very short lucid both nights

13 Nights, 6 successful (8 Lucids, 0 FA)

Still havn't noticed any of those infamous False awakenings.

Day 14: 1 Lucid, 1 FA
Day 15: No success

Score: 15 Nights, 7 Successful (9 Lucid, 1 FA)

Originally Posted by PennyRoyal

Day 14: 1 Lucid, 1 FA
Day 15: No success

Score: 15 Nights, 7 Successful (9 Lucid, 1 FA)

You have a success rate of 46%
Keep it up!

Days 16, 17, 18 no success.

18 Nights, 7 Successful (9 Lucid, 1 FA)

Originally Posted by PennyRoyal

Day 14: 1 Lucid, 1 FA
Day 15: No success

Score: 15 Nights, 7 Successful (9 Lucid, 1 FA)

I am glad that you are so diligent in your 30 day test and to see the success you have had! I have had some success with it but now only try it when I am off or on weekends but initially jumped straight into it almost immediately upon my return to lucid dreaming(but had trouble getting back to sleep). I have recently decided to go back to "the basics" of awareness(not so basic or easy) and recall and only try SSILD when I can. It obviously works well for all skill levels and it does seem like a great method to quickly get many beginners to their first LD as well but I imagine it takes additional effort to sustain continual LDs.

Edit: Was your false awakening lucid? It is interesting that you had your first FA with this method right after noticing that you were not noticing FAs in the post just before that. I wonder if that is what happened with my FA, perhaps being more aware of that possibility and then recognizing it.

Day 19 - Nada

19 Nights, 7 Successful (9 Lucid, 1 FA)

Originally Posted by fogelbise

I am glad that you are so diligent in your 30 day test and to see the success you have had! I have had some success with it but now only try it when I am off or on weekends but initially jumped straight into it almost immediately upon my return to lucid dreaming(but had trouble getting back to sleep). I have recently decided to go back to "the basics" of awareness(not so basic or easy) and recall and only try SSILD when I can. It obviously works well for all skill levels and it does seem like a great method to quickly get many beginners to their first LD as well but I imagine it takes additional effort to sustain continual LDs.

Edit: Was your false awakening lucid? It is interesting that you had your first FA with this method right after noticing that you were not noticing FAs in the post just before that. I wonder if that is what happened with my FA, perhaps being more aware of that possibility and then recognizing it.

Thanks, browsing through this thread there aren't a ton of people who stuck to it for the entire 30 days so I wanted to leave a good testimonial so to speak. Nothing wrong with returning to basics, I actually chose SSILD this month because it seemed really.. well.. basic lol. I do the cycles during awakenings I have in the night, I wouldnt say I'm up longer than 10-15 minutes. If you're worried about losing sleep maybe go to bed a little early to make up for it. I had some trouble falling asleep the first week, I think it was just from the excitement of something new. I have to stay up longer now because I fall asleep in the middle of the first cycle sometimes.

Hmm, I checked my DJ and it doesn't seem like I wrote about it.. For the life of me I can't remember it right now either. I didn't catch that I was in an FA though, I remember being disappointed that I didn't catch it to get lucid.

Haha. Yeah, i stopped at like day 12 or something. I still use it on occasion. It seems to be working well for you. Keep up the good work.

I had success with SSILD over the weekend again. I did the 6 short cycles normally and then did all 3 parts of the cycles at the same time as PennyRoyal mentioned and that seems to help me. Waited out vibrations and next thing I knew I was lucid in a dream with flying. I took off flying before stabilizing so I landed and stabilized somewhat, saw a deceased loved one pass by but couldn't find them again, then took off flying again. Trying to take off right away seemed to create a weird dream and may have shortened it but it was still a nice length.

Edit: I read it suggested all the time, I got to try to get to sleep earlier but life currently won't let me. (Some) weekends are my sanctuary for now.

Havn't been able to use the last few days. Havn't forgot about updating. Will continue tonight.

No worries. Your progress updates are much appreciated!

Day 20 - False Awakening that turned into a very brief lucid

20 Nights, 8 Successful (10 Lucid, 2 FA)

Day 21 - Brief Lucid,

21 Nights, 9 Successful, (11 Lucid, 2 FA)

Sorry about the gap in updates, been out of town. Back in business.

Good to see you back!! I had no luck this weekend. I had a lucid 1 week ago. Not sure if it was my half-hearted SSILD cycles (too tired; I usually only try on the weekends) or setting my intentions before bed..either way, it was nice.

Hi everyone, this will be my first ever post on DreamViews! I've been visiting these forums for years but have only recently started to get serious about lucid dreaming again. The reason for this is that I've just started a PhD on lucid dreaming techniques!

This SSILD technique has got me quite excited since many people seem to be having great success with it. I've decided to join in on the fun and try it myself as well. I probably won't make it to 30 attempts any time soon (because I'm experimenting with a range of techniques), but I plan to give it at least 10 attempts within a month or two. I've already tried it twice and I'll continue to post my results here.

2 Nights, 0 Successful, (0 Lucid, 0 FA)

I'd be very curious to hear what people think about SSILD in comparison to other well-known techniques (especially MILD). More effective? Less so?

Day 22 - No results

22 Nights, 9 Successful (11 Lucids, 2 FA) (~41%)

Originally Posted by Denholm

This SSILD technique has got me quite excited since many people seem to be having great success with it. I've decided to join in on the fun and try it myself as well. I probably won't make it to 30 attempts any time soon (because I'm experimenting with a range of techniques), but I plan to give it at least 10 attempts within a month or two. I've already tried it twice and I'll continue to post my results here.

Welcome to DV Denholm.

What kind of results are you looking for that you are using a bunch of different techniques? How are you supposed to tell which ones are more effective if you keep changing it up on yourself? If you want my opinion I'd say stick with a technique for about a month and then switch it up.[/quote]

I'd be very curious to hear what people think about SSILD in comparison to other well-known techniques (especially MILD). More effective? Less so?

Personally, for me SSILD has been much more effective than MILD. I used MILD for about 2 months and yielded about 5-6 Lucids. I switched to SSILD and got 4-5 in my first week, I've been averaging about 1-2 a week since then.