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      rvdc is one of the ⚘Greatest⚘Psidreamer's ever

      rvdc is one of the ⚘Greatest⚘Psidreamer's ever

      Dr Robert Leon Van De Castle
      begins talking about dreams at the (15:33) point.

      (15:33 to17:37) 2 minutes 4 seconds

      (15:33)

      Interviewer:

      Apart from Parapsychology
      you are also very well known for your ⚘dream work⚘.
      And I'm wondering at what point did the dreamwork begin

      (...)

      (16:00)

      rvdc:

      Well, at first is wasn't the logical extention.
      I had the interest in Parapsychology.
      I was now out at Denver in a (...) teaching position.

      Once I graduated
      I could teach anything about clinical "psychology".
      And so I asked the students,
      "what would you like" and they said 'Dreams',

      I said, "jees, I dont know anything about dreams"
      I really had no exposure to dreams
      in my graduate course back at Chaplehill.
      A little bit about Freud.

      They said "No, we really want to do Dreams"

      I said
      "I dont know anything about dreams,
      you're not hearing me".

      They said " No, but we still want to do dreams"

      I said:

      "Ok, here's the deal

      (16:36)

      You read-up every week about dreams
      and tell me what you learned
      and
      I will read-up every week about dreams
      and tell you what I learned"

      Interviewer:

      So it was on-the-job training.
      Had there been a lot of work done on dreams prior to ...

      rvdc:

      No, no there was a little bit of work done in 1953.
      There was a big breakthrough study done in Chicago
      ... they put electrodes on the head
      and could tell when a person was having a REM period
      and when they were dreaming.
      "IT" was just begining to be assimulated into mainstream...

      Interviewer:

      So, Dreamwork was still in its infancy.

      rvdc:

      Yeah, at that point is was all quite new.

      (17:00)

      So then I had a chance to,
      I was teaching these courses on Personality Testing
      So, I thought I could tell pretty much what
      the personality testing was saying about people
      but I didn't know about dreams.

      (17:17)

      So now I would give students Personality Tests
      and also collect dreams from them.
      I found as I went through, I found
      I was getting more from the "Dreams"
      than I was getting ftom the Personality Testing.

      (17:27)

      Then there was the chance to work with ⚘Calvin Hall⚘
      at that time he (Calvin Hall) was considered
      the leading Dream Researcher in the country (USA)

      More later DV friends

      Here is the (35:55) clip made in 2001
      thirteen years befor rvdc died suddenly
      from a catastrophic brain stem stroke aged 86

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      (...) (19:07)

      ⚘⚘⚘

      So one day I was there in the lab
      and we had a grant from the
      Institute of Mental Health
      which usually has to go to
      a University
      but Calvin had such a Reputation
      that they gave it to him PERSONALLY.

      So we began looking at what's the difference
      between dreams at home and dreams in the laboratory.

      And how dreams change from one REM period
      to another, to another, to another
      throughout the night.

      So we became our own subjects for it
      so we could experience it first hand.

      ⚘(19:40)

      So one night I had dream,

      I was in the City, in some place big, busy, city.

      And all of a sudden
      I was almost impelled to walk over
      to the basement of this building.

      And as I worked in the basement
      there was this boxing match going on.

      And these guys were really sluging it out.
      And one guy was really getting clobbered.

      So I kind of identerfied with the underdog
      and I was throwing all these imaginary punches.

      (20:00)

      When Calvin came in to wake me up
      * to record*
      the dream
      and he didn't tell me
      he was going to do this,

      He was trying to send a message
      of the Muhammad Ali (Casius Clay) fight
      with Sony Listen down there.

      So Calvin was in anoth room
      throwing punches in the air
      like what I was doing in the dream.

      (20:20)

      I was startled, he was startled.

      ⚘⚘⚘

      And that my DV friends
      Was an EXPLOSIVE begining
      of Laboratory controlled Psidreaming.

      54 years ago

      The year was 1964




      From Wiki↘️
      Muhammad Ali was*born*Cassius Marcellus Clay
      At age 22, in 1964,
      he won the world*heavyweight championship
      from*Sonny Liston*in*a major upset
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