An Experiment Into Shared Dreaming

I want t o experiment with the possibility of two people shearing the same dream.

I'm looking for someone who wants to know if this is possible, who is serious enough to try it for at least 30 days and will not cop out.

Male or female old or young of any race, religious or philosophical belief. One person.

I would like a third person to be a referee who would hold pertinent information on each of us experimentees, we would not share this info with each other only the referee.

I would think it best that the referee not believe in shared dreaming. At the same time the other experimenter should believe it possible.

The info we would offer the referee would be a phrase, what you look like,(your pitcher can not be posted on this forum) your pet's name that you had as a child or any other similar thing . We should use a minimum of three things.

Any one interested please let me know here. Thanks!

hi.
Your avatar is very cool. :bigteeth:

Check ut this experiment ---> Dream sharing

How do you propose to go about doing this?

Incubated dream about your target, becomming lucid then finding them, or trying to influence a sleeper's dreams while you are awake?

That's a very interesting question.

I need a partner with which to resonate for a short time on this forum, in order to come to a mutual and comfortable agreement, on how this is to be achieved.

I plan on using methods known in ESP and mental projection coupled with self-hypnosis.

I'd be interested in giving it a try if you're serious. Most of these projects are filled with people who all say "Do me!" but never make any effort of thier own.

Although if you attempt this with me, I'd like to propose a twist. How's your Kung Fu? I've been spoiling for a dream scrap, and have been meaning to issue some kind of challenge somewhere, but the thought of actually meeting in a dream always complicated things.

I've been attempting to influence people's dream while awake myself, with mixed results. The biggest problem is the target not remembering dreams after I've made an effort to send. But one time I tried to send the image of me holding out a deck of tarot cards. THe first night the target dreamt of normal playing cards, and dreamt of tarot cards the next night when I wasnt trying. Close, but no cigar.

Hum, I've never thought of influencing someones dream while awake. very interesting.

As for kung Fu I refuse to use my martial arts for anything other than self preservation and attaining personal strength. I fallow master sun-tzu in that the greatest way to win a battle is not by fighting but by not fighting, this is called over powering the enemy with a strong presents so he sees that to fight would be futile.

Other than that and sexuality I'm open for just about anything.

I thought we could, through PMing, and along with a third party, agree on nights to attempt shared dreaming, along with some subject matter.

Forget about it then. After that high and mighty rant about your martial arts, there is no way I would be able to resist dropping a mountain on your head.

The fighting wasn't about power, but about having fun.

Through seeking only fun in lucid dreams, most fail to see many possibilities in it. However, that is for the best in the end.

All mountains crumble, They don't last forever as they are made of sand and dirt, make sure the mountain dos not crumble and bury you.

Well good luck, glad I found out now rather than latter.

Thanks for the consideration. Now go kick ass.

Well so is it really possible to share dreams? Because I've had an experience last night , which quite possibly could be my first shared dream.

Taltho, would you care to say when you sleep? Time zone, usual hours of sleep, etc. I'd like to take part in the experiment if our sleep shedule matches.

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Well so is it really possible to share dreams? Because I've had an experience last night , which quite possibly could be my first shared dream.[/b]

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I believe it is, but I would like to do this experiment to have a more concrete assurety, right now I can only see it as an assumption. Thats whay I want to do this experiment.
I believe I've had many shared dreams, but I can't be certain.

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Taltho, would you care to say when you sleep? Time zone, usual hours of sleep, etc. I'd like to take part in the experiment if our sleep shedule matches.[/b]

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Awesome!
I sleep from around 10:00-11:00Pm until 8:00-9:30am Mountain Standard Time.

I'm 99% sure I've had one with someone, although she didn't rememebr any dreams that night...

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I sleep from around 10:00-11:00Pm until 8:00-9:30am Mountain Standard Time.[/b]

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Ok, although we're on different hemispheres, our shedules sort of match :). Let's hope it's a good sign. Sometimes the shedule will be different for me, but I can warn you beforehand, and anyway it's still possible to fit in some sleep in a range of hours that you specified.

More questions to you. When exactly do you plan to try meeting each other, any time? I think it's easier to have our subconscious plan to try it close to the time we must get up, as we're likely to remember what we dreamt better. Share the other details, too...

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More questions to you. When exactly do you plan to try meeting each other, any time? I think it's easier to have our subconscious plan to try it close to the time we must get up, as we're likely to remember what we dreamt better. Share the other details, too...[/b]

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I agree. Also you should let me know your tiime zone. that would help me focus my time better. I offten wake up after my dreams, actually we could tell each-other/the-other to wake up as an added effort.

I think we should concentrate on dreaming of a certain place, somewhere like in the Sea of Cortes. or the middle of the Himalayas etc. You may have some more suggestions as well, lets get a short list together then decide a place. This control of environment will help us to focus don't you think? Also I suggest we meditate the night before to help us focus.

We need a 3'rd party volunteer to record data, such as what will you/I tell the other etc. this as mentioned above should be a minimum of 3 things, something to tell, something to see, something personal about hte self.

If you have any suggestions I'm all ears.

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Also you should let me know your tiime zone. that would help me focus my time better. I offten wake up after my dreams, actually we could tell each-other/the-other to wake up as an added effort.[/b]

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It's daytime for me, and it's ok, I don't have a strict sleeping shedule, so it's sort of impossible to tell you when I usually sleep :) Anyway I can stick to the hours that you specified.
As for an added effort, I don't quite see what you mean. If one of us is sleeping, you can't ask for an added effort. You want us to get online if we wake up and if we think there was a successful attempt?

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I think we should concentrate on dreaming of a certain place, somewhere like in the Sea of Cortes. or the middle of the Himalayas etc.[/b]

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Ok, I get the idea. But have another one, maybe you'll like it. Let's say you remembered that you want to meet me, than you can search for a mirror (or create one) and go through it into my dream. If I remember first, I can do the same. It would be nice if we could actually enter one another's dreams and compare the surroundings later. If we both imagine the Himalayas, we'll both remember them even if we fail. And you don't usually know where you'd end up when going through a mirror.

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This control of environment will help us to focus don't you think?[/b]

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It should. We'll have to decide what to do about them. Another reason why I offered going through a mirror is that it's difficult to imagine that we'll get lucid simulteneously, and it's quite probable that one of us will have to try to wake up another one in some preplanned way. Shaking the other could work, I think, it's something that DCs never normally do :)

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Also I suggest we meditate the night before to help us focus.[/b]

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Doing it simultaneously might be crucial, too. We can set time and how long we medidate. And something else must be in common, maybe repeating the same phrase? It depends on how you meditate. Please, share your ideas.

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We need a 3'rd party volunteer to record data, such as what will you/I tell the other etc.[/b]

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Let's hope that someone will want to help :)

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this as mentioned above should be a minimum of 3 things, something to tell, something to see, something personal about hte self.[/b]

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Could be something easy for starters, and if things suddenly work we could complicate it. Something like a colour would work for now. Do you think so?

Hay you may want ot check this out. It has some cool stuff in it that my help us.
A post by ranma187

To redirect me to another post was a strange way to (not) reply. Well, I cba to consider it tbh, being not as gullible as to believe everything every time when someone states they sharedreamt :)

I didn't have time to reply sorry. I had to go to work this morning and I thought it might give us some more insight insight to read that post.

I'm still considering what you've had to say please be patient give me a little time thanks. I have many other threds in the DV forum I'm talking on.
this dose not mean I don't consider this one important cause I do. I'm very anxious to try this experiment.

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Ok, I get the idea. But have another one, maybe you'll like it. Let's say you remembered that you want to meet me, than you can search for a mirror (or create one) and go through it into my dream. If I remember first, I can do the same. It would be nice if we could actually enter one another's dreams and compare the surroundings later. If we both imagine the Himalayas, we'll both remember them even if we fail. And you don't usually know where you'd end up when going through a mirror.[/b]

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I've been thinking about that, all tho it is a good suggestion, I feel a little uncomfortable with the approach. I'm affrayed because of my uncomfortable state it may hinder the possibility in myself achieving the goal.
Why do you not like the idea of meeting in a specific area? We certainly don't have to if you don't want to.

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It should. We'll have to decide what to do about them. Another reason why I offered going through a mirror is that it's difficult to imagine that we'll get lucid simulteneously, and it's quite probable that one of us will have to try to wake up another one in some preplanned way. Shaking the other could work, I think, it's something that DCs never normally do smiley.gif[/b]

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I understand about the mirror. I like the shaking idea I think we should use it.

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Doing it simultaneously might be crucial, too. We can set time and how long we medidate. And something else must be in common, maybe repeating the same phrase? It depends on how you meditate. Please, share your ideas.[/b]

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agreed. We should meditate for about 10 to 15 minuets just before sleeping.
how do you feel about saying the other persons name along with general location?

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Let's hope that someone will want to help smiley.gif[/b]

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Yes let's. Any ideas on how to interest anyone I've also been thinking about this.

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Could be something easy for starters, and if things suddenly work we could complicate it. Something like a colour would work for now. Do you think so?[/b]

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Colors are vague I'd suggest something like a possession, we could also meditate on our own item to share what do you think? :?:


Let's also keep discussing a way to meet in dream till we both feel comfortable. Feeling comfortable is important I think don't you?

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I feel uncomfortable about it. How would it work? You and I each create an area, so we have two areas instead of one. We each go to our area and search for each other in vain... or maybe find there a figment of our own imagination. That's how I understand it and I don't like it. Even though I do understand what is meant by meeting in a certain place, it still turns into two places in my mind :(.

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We should meditate for about 10 to 15 minuets just before sleeping.[/b]

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Ok, but how?

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how do you feel about saying the other persons name along with general location?[/b]

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Sure, we can share details in private.

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Yes let's. Any ideas on how to interest anyone I've also been thinking about this.[/b]

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Not really. People I know are either too busy or too unreliable.

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Colors are vague I'd suggest something like a possession, we could also meditate on our own item to share what do you think?[/b]

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Ok, sure. But what do you mean by meditating on an item to share?

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Let's also keep discussing a way to meet in dream till we both feel comfortable. Feeling comfortable is important I think don't you?[/b]

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Depending on how it works (and if it does), we may be wasting time ;). It must be a sort of telepathy, or a meeting in a collective unconcious, coz dreaming worlds don't really exist. So who knows how it will work out when it does. We might even see a different place each, but receive correct information.

Follower

I wanted to let you know I am going to the reservation to a sweat lodge (part of the native American ritual) today I do this a couple of times a month, I may not get back here till tomorrow night.

How to meditate. I suggest we keep in mind, while going to sleep the other persons user name/identity that we want to meet.

since finding someone is proving difficult I will start a dream journal here on DV's and we can compare notes, if you are comfortable with doing hte same.

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Ok, sure. But what do you mean by meditating on an item to share?[/b]

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by meditating on an item I mean keeping something spucific in mind to try and bring it into the dream world with you and me.

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Depending on how it works (and if it does), we may be wasting time wink.gif. It must be a sort of telepathy, or a meeting in a collective unconcious, coz dreaming worlds don't really exist. So who knows how it will work out when it does. We might even see a different place each, but receive correct information.[/b]

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I'm somewhat convinced the dream world exists. Even if some other way if we receive correct info that would be phenomenal, especially if we came by that info in a dream.

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since finding someone is proving difficult I will start a dream journal here on DV's and we can compare notes, if you are comfortable with doing hte same.[/b]

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Can't remember anyone shaking me lately or asking questions :). Right now there's no need to start a journal, I think.

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by meditating on an item I mean keeping something spucific in mind to try and bring it into the dream world with you and me.[/b]

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There are too many kinds of meditation, I find this a little vague :). Ok, what item do you propose?

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I'm starting to dislike the whole idea, it is proving to be too difficult to agree upon what and how to do. We still haven't decided about transportation, imagining a place, a type of questions, etc. It's a hint to someone else who might be reading this and is interested to take part in the experiment. If there is such a person, speak up, maybe you'll have better luck at agreeing upon different things. :)

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Can't remember anyone shaking me lately or asking questions :). Right now there's no need to start a journal, I think.

There are too many kinds of meditation, I find this a little vague :). Ok, what item do you propose?

P.S.
I'm starting to dislike the whole idea, it is proving to be too difficult to agree upon what and how to do. We still haven't decided about transportation, imagining a place, a type of questions, etc. It's a hint to someone else who might be reading this and is interested to take part in the experiment. If there is such a person, speak up, maybe you'll have better luck at agreeing upon different things. :)
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It dose seem complicated. I'm not in any hurry here so i'm taking the time to test it as well as I can think of.