Easiest Working Method to LD! Malac's BHILD

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Originally Posted by TalkingHead

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/72299.php
Quote of the Day: Pure oxygen kindles the match that fuels a forest fire of harm to the body"



HAHAHA: Otherwise I'd be just the person to try it. That's ridiculous, canned oxygen.. I'm living in the future!

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Before you get started.

I used this method but instead of high on oxygen I got high on thc, and combined this technique with the your ILT? Igniting lucid technique or something. Anyway, it got me into a WILD only after 2 minutes. It was short and was only like a few minutes long tho but a good beginning for a newbie like me :p

sounds awesome....definetly try it tonight.

Against my will I couldn't find the energy to do it last night... Really made me mad!

Once again my alarm clock failed on me... It was three hours too late...

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Originally Posted by halfasleep

Hey, I haven't really put enough time into this method to say if it works for me,
but i was thinking...

what if you found some other way to get that oxygen boost quickly, say using one of those flavored oxygen cans (like here: http://www.bigoxrox.com/)

Do you think a "sip" or two would do the trick?
I can see it being a little more efficient, as you could literally get back to sleep in seconds.

Has anyone ever even tried that stuff?

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Don't go there! LOL! I posted about this a long time ago when I was Xanous. Everyone on here told me how bad the stuff was and how it was going to kill me. Nonsense. Anyway, why spend the money when you can hyperventilate yourself for free? I think I will try this if I happen to wake up in the night. I hate WBTB it's not always necessary.

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Originally Posted by malac

Haha, so in my other post I said it would be my last post as "Malac" and I would use my other account. Sorry but this came as a surprised and I had to share this. It gave me 3 LD's of trying this with high vividness(I know that's not a lot to me but a hell've a lot for others).Funny how no one has even thought about the logic of this tech.


BHILD - Breathing - High induced lucid dream

Its simple as hell that I don't even need to make a long tutorial about it, as the name explains it itself and the fact that this tech/method is ridiculously easy.

Method
After a WBTB of lets say...3 hrs or more, when you wake up tired, breathe excessively deep and exhale fast, until you get that light feeling of highness and alertness. You know, when you take in too much air fast and you get really alerted and wanna jump around everywhere, your body is light feeling and etc. This process takes around 30 secs on avg for me.(Can be lower or higher for others. Just do it until you get really high!). When you're in this moment, go back to sleep with at least some bits of thoughts toward lucid dreaming like "I'll realize I'm dreaming"(I don't think it matters, haven't tested too far in).

You're mind will be very alerted, yet very tired. You should surprisingly sleep fast and with the already SP-like feeling gained from the highness of air, it'll helps even more. This will either get you a fast as hell WILD out of nowhere(fastest since lay-down time was like 10ish secs), or when you do go asleep fast or a little later, your mind will be alerted and will give you a DILD.

There you go, sorry for the bad grammar, I just...didn't care :)

P.S. Only reason I put in the effectiveness of this method in the thread name is so it gets the attention of both crowds. The "Zomg th3re is a Ultim@te technique for a lazy guy like me!!!!!" and the " Hmm interesting. This will help nourish my knowledge of lucidity even though I am a natural".

P.S.S. Umm I don't know if there is a point beyond the highness part of breathing, like eh..passing out or something(my logical side says there is). Not saying that this can endanger you but don't take it to the extreme like some kids these days do...like doing it for hours on end without stopping....

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In a recent thread of mine I was talking a lot about the deep breathing oxygen rush technique thing. I find it very useful, as you do, and I too was surprised that it had not been mentioned before.

SO it tried this last night. I got a DILD and 2 vivid dreams. Cool.

It's not working for me, but it's a great method to get so tired, that you sleep within seconds... I think I will try it a few more times and I hope this doesn't damage my brain too much. :p

For the past few nights I've been meaning to try this but I haven't woken up during the night like I usually do:embarrassed:. Anyways, if I manage to try this I'll post my results.

I bought some balloons. I'll try it for real tonight. I couldn't really get lightheaded without completely waking myself up, but with the balloons I'm sure I'll get it in a few seconds.

It would be interesting to do a few experiments with oxygen. Like perhaps build some kind of dome above your head but with the bottom half cut off so you're not restricted. Then you could have a timer to increase oxygen levels in that area through holes in the dome during your longer REM periods.

I wonder how someone would create a time released galantamine tablet which gets activated say six hours into sleep. That would be a cool experiment also.

I tried this a couple days ago, but instead of the heavy breathing, I was under the effect of a very small amount of thc. Just noticeable. However, I did not do a WBTB so I wasn't expecting LD entry, it was just kinda "practice". Well it worked. Upon laying down I was immediately aware of my body. I ran through my blue meditation technique in seconds(usually takes like 10 mins) and was fully relaxed. I achieved getting into sleep paralysis and the sensations easily came quick. No Ld entry though, not the right REM stage. Closest I've ever been though. Btw the thc only made it easier, I can get the same sensations without it, it just takes more time/practice/concentration.

So it appears as the slight high from a little thc has the same effect as the breathing technique(basically they both make you extremely aware, and easier to focus on the SP/LD transfer)

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Originally Posted by dtrevinofl

I tried this a couple days ago, but instead of the heavy breathing, I was under the effect of a very small amount of thc. Just noticeable. However, I did not do a WBTB so I wasn't expecting LD entry, it was just kinda "practice". Well it worked. Upon laying down I was immediately aware of my body. I ran through my blue meditation technique in seconds(usually takes like 10 mins) and was fully relaxed. I achieved getting into sleep paralysis and the sensations easily came quick. No Ld entry though, not the right REM stage. Closest I've ever been though. Btw the thc only made it easier, I can get the same sensations without it, it just takes more time/practice/concentration.

So it appears as the slight high from a little thc has the same effect as the breathing technique(basically they both make you extremely aware, and easier to focus on the SP/LD transfer)

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So, you think a bit of THC in the system is a good idea? I don't like smoking when I wanna dream because it harms my recall, but at the same time I'm pretty sure it makes my dreams more vivid.

I'm going to try this technique tonight to see if it works as I'm already in the middle of a wbtb session. It looks very promising!

Also, what is this "blue meditation" technique you speak of? I'm trying to find effective body relaxation techniques.

Cheers! Malloc I'll tell you how it goes!

Sorry, I'm still kinda confused on this technique

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Originally Posted by Sony86

So, you think a bit of THC in the system is a good idea? I don't like smoking when I wanna dream because it harms my recall, but at the same time I'm pretty sure it makes my dreams more vivid.

I'm going to try this technique tonight to see if it works as I'm already in the middle of a wbtb session. It looks very promising!

Also, what is this "blue meditation" technique you speak of? I'm trying to find effective body relaxation techniques.

Cheers! Malloc I'll tell you how it goes!

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First off, I believe in achieving things like lucid dreams first without the use of drugs, just to avoid ever doubting was it me or the drugs. I don't think you should be smoking if it acts as your crutch, or your ever in the mind frame of "I need x drug to accomplish x". That's a fall in consciousness.

Anyways, this year I've been smoking regularly, and its high octane stuff, so my tolerance is pretty high. I just so happened to take a couple single rips, lay down, and run through a relaxation/SP technique, testing the effect. I experienced the technique in ten times the normal speed. I didn't get completely stoned. Its just noticeable. Lucidity is Awareness and as you may know Marijuana is known to significantly expand awareness. This is how it works for me with a little on the brain. It speeds up the relaxation and SP process. Also, I've had some of the most magnificent insights(particularly in nature) while having a little on the brain.

Do you truly know if it effects your recall? I believe Dream Recall, Lucid Ability and Dream Clarity can be achieved and perfected by gaining a deeper sort of understanding. With enough competence and practice, you should be able to recall with a wee bit of thc on the mind the same way you can without it. Right now, I'm considered "new" to Lucid Dreaming scene but I've been involved with its meditation and astral projection counterparts. I've never been in the habit of recalling and writing in a dream journal, so my recall is the same whether or not i smoke or not, because its a new system im incorporating. But I'll tell you what, every time I try it my recall is getting better, and I'm remembering a little more each time, regardless of whether or not I smoked.

Not to mention tons of ancient cultures used marijuana to cross into the dream/spirit world.

About the blue meditation technique, you can find it here:
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...99&postcount=6
I've been using this since a kid, it truly is an easy and wonderful way to become fully relaxed and feel yourself as one.

I'm assuming your title is working very good because I hardly ever look at threads like this.



I'm definitely going to try this tonight though, it sounds very interesting.

Dangit, I've only half-attempted it the night I read about it and want to give it a better effort but I acquired a sore throat/flu friday... and rapid breathing doesn't feel too good with that...

So if you have no clue why the hyperventilation helps, why do you have it? To look cool? Because all it does is constrict blood flow to the head. Have fun with that.

I tried this a couple nights ago. It definitely helps you fall asleep faster but I didn't achieve a WILD. I was still a little drunk from before I went to bed so I still felt a little whooppeee while trying WBTB I may try this tonight combined with a Lucid Dream MP3 that I downloaded. Any one else have some more results to share?

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Originally Posted by dtrevinofl

First off, I believe in achieving things like lucid dreams first without the use of drugs, just to avoid ever doubting was it me or the drugs. I don't think you should be smoking if it acts as your crutch, or your ever in the mind frame of "I need x drug to accomplish x". That's a fall in consciousness.

Anyways, this year I've been smoking regularly, and its high octane stuff, so my tolerance is pretty high. I just so happened to take a couple single rips, lay down, and run through a relaxation/SP technique, testing the effect. I experienced the technique in ten times the normal speed. I didn't get completely stoned. Its just noticeable. Lucidity is Awareness and as you may know Marijuana is known to significantly expand awareness. This is how it works for me with a little on the brain. It speeds up the relaxation and SP process. Also, I've had some of the most magnificent insights(particularly in nature) while having a little on the brain.

Do you truly know if it effects your recall? I believe Dream Recall, Lucid Ability and Dream Clarity can be achieved and perfected by gaining a deeper sort of understanding. With enough competence and practice, you should be able to recall with a wee bit of thc on the mind the same way you can without it. Right now, I'm considered "new" to Lucid Dreaming scene but I've been involved with its meditation and astral projection counterparts. I've never been in the habit of recalling and writing in a dream journal, so my recall is the same whether or not i smoke or not, because its a new system im incorporating. But I'll tell you what, every time I try it my recall is getting better, and I'm remembering a little more each time, regardless of whether or not I smoked.

Not to mention tons of ancient cultures used marijuana to cross into the dream/spirit world.

About the blue meditation technique, you can find it here:
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...99&postcount=6
I've been using this since a kid, it truly is an easy and wonderful way to become fully relaxed and feel yourself as one.

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Thanks man, all of that is very helpful. The blue meditation techinique sounds promising, I'll give it a go tonight.

It's always good to recieve advice from fellow stoners :) (They always seem to be the most useful).

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Originally Posted by Grunkie7

Dangit, I've only half-attempted it the night I read about it and want to give it a better effort but I acquired a sore throat/flu friday... and rapid breathing doesn't feel too good with that...

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I totally didn't get anything from this technique. I'll try again tonight but it doesn't seem to be doing anything. Then again I'm still a newbie at lucid dreaming and WILDs so I can't really distinguish a successful normal WILD from a sped-up version. I still need to learn how to do it.

Man, when i saw "BHILD" I expected "Bong Hit Induced Lucid Dream"

I dont like the idea of a lack of oxygen, so ill stick to trying FILD's. Thanks, tho

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Originally Posted by Mad Stratter

Man, when i saw "BHILD" I expected "Bong Hit Induced Lucid Dream"

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LMFAO, too good.

Interesting idea, but now I wonder if a bong hit would actually work better than a "breathing high".
Plus, I'm also a little hesitant to restrict my breathing in such a way because it seems like a good way to pass out, thus rendering me unconscious and therefore defeating the entire purpose of remaining aware while entering the dream state.