I've been lazy with my WILD attempts as well, so, you aren't the only one? ;)
Personally, I still do RCs during the day but only a couple(5 or so) where I question my reality and really come to the conclusion that I'm awake and not asleep :)
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I've been lazy with my WILD attempts as well, so, you aren't the only one? ;)
Personally, I still do RCs during the day but only a couple(5 or so) where I question my reality and really come to the conclusion that I'm awake and not asleep :)
I read through Naniyas guide, and since she didn't do a very long WBTB, but wrote that it's important to WILD in a position you don't usually sleep, I tried that, BUT: failed. I SHALL do a longer WBTB tonight. F*KKk
@BohmaN Just gotta relax. You will eventually WILD. What I would do is sleep in any comfortable position, changing into another position every 10 min or so if you need to and just wait for the HI and watch them passively when they come :) Everyone in this project is having failures but you gotta pick yourself up and keep on going :D
Day 13: Well, quite an odd day. I had 11hr of sleep the previous with about an hour nap during that same day. I went to bed but wasn't able to sleep for around 1.5hr. This is where it gets interesting. I laid down and tried 3 differents positions(back and sides). Eventually, after struggling to sleep, I could feel my body going numb. This continued and felt like it spread a little and then I felt the spinning sensation where it would pick up and then stop and start picking up again. I personally enjoy it because I usually control it and make it feel like I am spinning faster. I almost had some vibrations if my brother didn't kick his bed and stop them :P Eventually, I forced myself to fall asleep and woke up much later, so, no other WILDing attempts :eek:
Guys, I'm pulling out of the project too, sorry. I think it's jut kinda stressing HAVING to do good in order for the project to progress, however I will keep trying to succeed at WILD and will report my experience in this thread.
Hate to hear the you have to leave the project too. I understand what you mean by stress for HAVING to do good. I've felt the same way a few times throughout the project. I have kind of felt that way over the past few days. I want to WILD so badly, but life seems to interfere all too often. So many projects and papers at the uni, and it seems like it is difficult for me to get a morning to WILD in which the circumstances work to my advantage. What i mean is it is hard to get a morning that i can sleep and not have anyone making noise or interrupting me, but i'm going to keep trying. If i could get a few of these projects finished, that would really ease the stress and i could have renewed focus on my WILD attempts.
Day 62:
No WILD.
Day 63:
Again no WILD. But i had 2 back-to-back DILD's. :D I have BigFan to thank for that. He mentioned doing rc's so i decided to try fitting a few in. I think i did 3 or 4 rc's throughout the day, and got two DILD's. Sorry if this is off topic, but i just wanted to mention this. In the past 4 DILD's that i've had during this project, i have been looking for a specific dc that i suspect is my dreamguide. Her name is Eliza. In the first two DILD's i would walk around calling her name and find another dc. I would ask that dc if they knew where Eliza was, and i would wake up before i could hear there reply. In the two DILD's that i had this morning, i took the same method of searching for her. I went around asking dc's if they knew where she was. This time they all responded that they didn't know. I've already read the guide on finding your dreamguide, so i know that i'm on the right track. But i was wondering if anyone had any tips that they could give me. Like i said, i don't know that she is my dreamguide, but i think that it is very likely. If anyone can help, i would be very grateful. :D
Day 64:
SUCCESS!!!
7:23 - 7:29AM
I finally got another WILD, it's been 54 days since my last one. I got up and went to the bathroom. Came back and i could hear the traffic and birds singing right at my window. I thought, i'll never go back to sleep, let alone have a successful WILD. I'm glad i had earplugs, because after putting them in, the world became blissfully silent. :) I also had to put a shirt over my face, because it was too bright in my room. After laying there, i thought i should give WILD a shot. Then i had a strange thought, i should lay there and pretend that some one is walking around in my room checking to see if i'm asleep. I would be playing possum (i know that's not spelled right) until sp kicked in. Not long after i started trying that i noticed that it had gotten a little brighter and a shadow was in my peripheral vision. I started to get an uneasy feeling, as if there really WAS some one watching me. I kept getting waves of sp at this point. It would come and go, until one big wave came. After the big wave, i thought i had either failed or i was in the dream. I did an rc, it proved that i was in the dream. My vision was blurry to start out with and my hearing was horrible the entire dream. This hasn't been the first time that wearing earplugs carried over into the dream giving me bad hearing. Luckily, i finally found Eliza, but when she tried to talk to me; i couldn't hear her. All i heard was a mumble, after that, i woke up. I didn't get the chance to ask her any questions. The good thing is that it seems like every time i try to meet and talk to her, i get one step closer.
The thought of someone watching me seemed to be enough to keep me conscious yet not too awake for WILD. The only problem i see with it though, is that it may lead to some scary sp episodes. Like i said, i got a shadow watching me, but i've had much worse. If anybody wants to try this, let me know how it goes. I don't know if i'll stick to this train of thought, since it might make for some bad sp episodes. But i'm happy because it worked this time. :D
Congrats dark!
That's funny "Then i had a strange thought, i should lay there and pretend that some one is walking around in my room checking to see if i'm asleep." One time I kept getting a HI in which my mom came into my room and checked me, then kissed my cheek. This HI repeated about 5 times, and I actually thought it did happen, it felt so real, but it wasn't. I know what you mean about the small SP waves coming and going, and then the big wave. I usually stand up after the big wave and do a RC, and BAM im dreaming.
Thanks Andres! I've had the realistic HI before too. One time, i had a shirt over my face to keep it dark. I thought my sister had come in my room and turned the light on and was trying to wake me up. The whole time it was just realistic HI. It's funny how real it can be sometimes.
Day 65:
No attempt. I went to bed way too late. I probably didn't go to sleep for the first time until after 1:30 AM. I woke up naturally at 5 something AM, but i didn't try WILD because i was too afraid i would lose sleep. I had to get up early this morning so that's why there was no attempt. Every time that i don't try because of an early morning or i'm afraid i'll lose sleep; i always regret not trying. Even by not trying WILD, i still didn't get enough sleep so i might as well have tried. If i do lose sleep because of an attempt, maybe i'll have a little REM rebound the next night, which should make that attempt easier. I'm going to try to attempt WILD every night/morning whether i have to get up early or not. No more laziness! I think this has been one of the biggest things that has held me back some 62 days or so. Worrying about losing sleep/failing.
Congrats on both the DILDs and WILDs :) I've also been having some success, not WILDing though :P
Day 14: Woke up, put alarm off, tried to WILD, but, wasn't working. I decided to get up and do a couple of things even though I was tired. Went back to bed and had a LD, a really long one where I tried a couple of things. My guess is that it was in the 4th or 5th REM period which are long periods. My dream journal link is in my sig for anyone who wants to read it :D
Day 15: Woke up, put alarm off and went back to sleep, so, failure :P
Day 16: Woke up, put alarm off, tried to WILD but was too tired and decided to get up, do some stuff and then came back to bed. Had a couple of dreams where I remembered one where I mentioned that "I am dreaming" to my sister, but, I didn't count that, so, no LDs that I can recall and another WILD failure.
Solution: I think I should take my WILD attempts more seriously, similar to what I did on my first day in this project, because, nowadays I'm being really lazy whenever I tried to WILD, possibly due to being tired. I did feel some spinning last night but had a hard time getting to sleep and I haven't had vibrations or anything of the sort :P Also, I think the biggest problem is that I try to stay awake while WILDing which is the reason why I am not getting sleep to complete my WILD. Possibly a mantra of "I will stay aware" will help with the transition :)
Day 17: Only slept for a couple of hours so no way was I planning to WILD :P
1000th Post for the Win! :D
Congrats on the ld. I read it. Too bad you didn't get to see your wings or fly with them. Isn't it nice to have a really long ld. Imo, you can never have an ld that's too long. :D Do you every get bored in class or while you're doing something that you hate doing; do you ever say, "I sure wish this was an ld."? That way you could just fly out the nearest window and go do whatever you want. :P Then the best you can do is imagine what you would do if it were an ld. I find myself doing that a lot lately.
Day 66:
Fail. I fell asleep unaware. Nothing to do but try again.
woah:shock: a lot of things happend here and i haven't been here just a few days.
Congrats dark_grimmjow and BigFan!:banana:
I had my little success too!:cheeky:
I wasn't WILD but still LD(actually it was DILD).
I'm sooooo excited it was my first lucid!:D
I it was very vivid and although it was relatively short it was great.
You know, ever since i joined Dreamviews i just imagined how will it be but now i know:banana::banana::eek:
Recently i have not tried to WILD but now i'm motivated again.
I MUST learn how to do it:lol:
btw.I recalled 3 more dreams this night.
Congrats BigFan and Miomek on the DILDs :D, I myself had two DILD's in the past 3 days (one on the 26th, another one on the 27th), but I still try to WILD every now and then. I haven't been able to WILD because I'm too lazy to get out of bed, and we all know how that ends up... falling asleep.
Congrats on your first lucid Miomek! There's nothing like the first one. After that, you just want to keep having more.
Day 67:
I failed again. I got up and went to the bathroom. I came back and tried WILD, but i just laid awake for a long time, until i finally drifted off to sleep.
congrats miomek, dark_grimmjow and BigFan
Thanks :) It wasn't too bad. The only complaint was that it wasn't as vivid as I would have liked but it was an LD nonetheless, so, I'm hoping to get some more now that I've got 2 of them in about 2 weeks time. Guess the interesting part of all my LDs was that they were all in the 4th or 5th REM period and my last were all WBTB+some technique :)
Thanks, congrats on your first LD! For me, my first LD left the impact that it's possible since I was a bit skeptical at first :P Yes, you HAVE to learn how to WILD, you have NO choice :cheeky: but seriously, if we can master WILDs, then we can LD anytime :D
Thanks, when I first started this project, I would set my alarm for 5hr or so after I slept to wake up and try to WILD but with no success and becoming tired because of loss of sleep, sleep is not continuous, etc.... I decided that it's best to WILD when I have the time, so, if I have only 6hr of sleep, then WILDing is not an option, I'm just getting too tired and can't afford that at the moment :)
Day 18= Day 17 = No WILD attempt = Barely enough time to sleep :?
Had a week off this project due to life being too intense requiring the highest amount of sleep possible every night. Getting calmer now though, so I'm back :). Let's call it day 17. I wish myself luck.
Day 68:
Failed again. I got up to use the bathroom, keeping my eyes closed about half of the time. Went back to bed to try WILD, but i laid awake for about an hour, then eventually drifted off to sleep. I hate laying there for so long, only to fail. I need to keep my eyes closed the entire trip to the bathroom. I guess when i'm the only one at home; i could practice getting to the bathroom with my eyes closed, until i can do it no problem. I can already do it for the most part, but if i don't have to think to much to do it, then maybe i'll stay sleepy enough that i won't lay there for over an hour trying to WILD. Have to try again tonight. :D
Thanks guys!:D
I think i'll never forget my first lucid and YES i WANT more:lol::panic:
Recently no attempt though - i was too tired.
I hope this week i'll get some chances to WILD and hopefully finally succeed:P
Day 69:
Fail. When i woke up, i had to use the bathroom. My mom and dad were getting ready for work at the time, and my mom beat me to the bathroom. I spent to much time awake waiting for the bathroom, so that i was too awake to WILD. I still attempted though, and the result was a non-lucid false awakening. It seemed so real at the time. The only weird thing about it was a group of glowing cartoon characters, which i had never seen before, hovering over my tv. I thought, "Oh, how nice of them to be my night light." How is that normal!? Why do we have to be so non-observant in our non-lucids? I know why; it's just frustrating. Just have to try again. I'm feeling lucky. :D
I guess I'll start tonight, but don't make fun of me if I can't do it D:.
Last night I tried the whole thing with an anchor for WILD, but I don't remember my exact thoughts. They were along the lines of "Why am I even doing this". Maybe I have a split personality as I sleep.
17: No wbtb = fail
18: 3 min wbtb = fail. Next time I will take a walk outside the house for 5 min and get back, hopefully that'll do the trick. The key is to "de-numbify" your limbs as well as get to the sweet spot of alertness.
I dreamt I fell off a cliff, then woke up, I laid completely still, but did not manage to re-enter. I tried to visualize my previous dream but damn I couldn't visualize anything ;p. Tiredness = lack of visualization skills (?)