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      Cancer Survival Time Rising Rapidly

      BBC News - Cancer survival: Macmillan hails major improvement

      Survival times of cancer are up from 1 year in 1970 to 6 years now. I didn't know such substantial progress was being made.

      Vishnu is now severely lagging in the prayer-answering race with the cessation of an Indian elder's restless legs syndrome, and Jesus trails in the rear after putting in a poor performance of a partially healed earthworm and an unlikely piece of toast.

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      I like how 60% of your post was mocking religion. That was my favorite part.
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      Thanks but I know I can do better.
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      And then they die after 6 years, having gone through 5 extra years of pain and suffering. Great improvement.

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      Pain caused by some cancer related illnesses are very manageable these days. Stay informed. In regards to stress - it's bad...but the person enduring it, likely wants to remain alive.

      It may sound cheesy, but don't take for granted the value of life, especially the ones closest to you.
      I stomp on your ideas.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      BBC News - Cancer survival: Macmillan hails major improvement

      Survival times of cancer are up from 1 year in 1970 to 6 years now. I didn't know such substantial progress was being made.

      Vishnu is now severely lagging in the prayer-answering race with the cessation of an Indian elder's restless legs syndrome, and Jesus trails in the rear after putting in a poor performance of a partially healed earthworm and an unlikely piece of toast.
      And yet Jesus and Vishnu have more followers than Radiation Therapy. Weird.

      Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.


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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnis Dei View Post
      And yet Jesus and Vishnu have more followers than Radiation Therapy. Weird.
      You confused radiation therapy with the doctors and researchers who dedicate their lives to develop and use such technologies, but yes, it is rather, isn't it?


      Quote Originally Posted by Somii View Post
      Pain caused by some cancer related illnesses are very manageable these days. Stay informed. In regards to stress - it's bad...but the person enduring it, likely wants to remain alive.
      Indeed. If they didn't, they could always take a trip to Sweden, of course.

      And these statistics obviously don't represent six years of agonising cancer in its final stages (only a boundlessly fatuous person could ever think that LOL); they represent tempering the cancer in its early stages for much longer before it finally goes full blown. Being an average survival rate in fact, a lot of this increase will indeed be due to people being diagnosed with cancer but not dying of it.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      an unlikely piece of toast.
      This combination of words makes my day better.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      And these statistics obviously don't represent six years of agonising cancer in its final stages (only a boundlessly fatuous person could ever think that LOL); they represent tempering the cancer in its early stages for much longer before it finally goes full blown.
      They represent that do they? How would you know? They could spend the extra years barely hanging on. That happens a lot. It's not uncommon for people to spend years in a hospital getting treatment.

      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      Being an average survival rate in fact, a lot of this increase will indeed be due to people being diagnosed with cancer but not dying of it.
      Half the people with cancer died after 6 years. So half of them survived longer. Same as the previous studies, but a longer median survival time. So no it's got nothing to do with that.

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      Quote Originally Posted by tommo View Post
      They represent that do they? How would you know? They could spend the extra years barely hanging on. That happens a lot. It's not uncommon for people to spend years in a hospital getting treatment.


      Half the people with cancer died after 6 years. So half of them survived longer. Same as the previous studies, but a longer median survival time. So no it's got nothing to do with that.
      lol

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      oh here let me post a one word answer too.... coz I wanna be pithy but I'm actually not....

      Idiot.

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      Why do you argue so much tommo?

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      Quote Originally Posted by tommo View Post
      Half the people with cancer died after 6 years. So half of them survived longer. Same as the previous studies, but a longer median survival time. So no it's got nothing to do with that.
      I think he meant more people who wouldn't have died of cancer anyway if they hadn't been diagnosed, are now diagnosed with it. (Exaggerating) If before only the extreme fatal cases of cancer were being diagnosed, then the survival would have been lower than the rate now.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Spartiate View Post
      Why do you argue so much tommo?
      Because I'm really lonely and insecure in myself.

      Quote Originally Posted by Dianeva View Post
      I think he meant more people who wouldn't have died of cancer anyway if they hadn't been diagnosed, are now diagnosed with it. (Exaggerating) If before only the extreme fatal cases of cancer were being diagnosed, then the survival would have been lower than the rate now.
      I meant that, or Xei?
      I didn't mean that, and if Xei did, I'm completely lost. lol

      Seriously though, people aren't just all healthy and happy until they suddenly drop dead of cancer. It's a long, slow and painful affair, on a downward trajectory 'til death.
      If you think they're happy as larry until they suddenly die 6 years later, go ahead and praise this milestone.
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      I meant that Xei meant that. It's the only interpretation of what he said that I can see making sense.

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      Quote Originally Posted by tommo View Post
      Because I'm really lonely
      Maybe because you argue so much?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Spartiate View Post
      Maybe because you argue so much?
      It was a joke.

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      Grandma died of cancer, grandpa had cancer, i watched someone literally die of cancer infront of me (a week leading up to the death). Fuck off cancer.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      You confused radiation therapy with the doctors and researchers who dedicate their lives to develop and use such technologies, but yes, it is rather, isn't it?



      Indeed. If they didn't, they could always take a trip to Sweden, of course.

      And these statistics obviously don't represent six years of agonising cancer in its final stages (only a boundlessly fatuous person could ever think that LOL); they represent tempering the cancer in its early stages for much longer before it finally goes full blown. Being an average survival rate in fact, a lot of this increase will indeed be due to people being diagnosed with cancer but not dying of it.
      No that wasn't me but what I did do was confuse you with someone capable of coherency.

      Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.


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      It shouldn't be the case that imaginary people who do nothing have billions of followers yet people who spend their lives and can actually make a huge difference are unappreciated.

      Sorry you found this extremely subtle and complex point so hard to understand, Omnis. I'll try harder to use even smaller words next time.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      It shouldn't be the case that imaginary people who do nothing have billions of followers yet people who spend their lives and can actually make a huge difference are unappreciated.

      Sorry you found this extremely subtle and complex point so hard to understand, Omnis. I'll try harder to use even smaller words next time.
      I can only assume these researchers are very much appreciated, winning awards, the love of their patients and families and obtaining financial success.

      Religion, on the other hand, is about symbolism. Through religion, when one is thanking Jesus, who are you to claim they're not thanking the researchers you're referring to in a less general way? Why do you have to use cancer research to rag on people's traditions?

      Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.


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      Because they're thanking jesus, or god or whatever. Not the researchers.
      That's how we know.

      No one thanks Semmelweis when they and their baby don't die at birth from an infection.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      It shouldn't be the case that imaginary people who do nothing have billions of followers yet people who spend their lives and can actually make a huge difference are unappreciated.
      I think that this perspective is a bit off.

      I am a Buddhist. Let's assume that Shakyamuni never existed (he did). Teachings that are then falsely attributed to him do a tremendous amount of good in the world. There's not much point in five more years of life (though less than that due to faster diagnosis) if those five years are filled with fear, pain and the suffering that they cause. By letting the great teachers of history (real or fabricated) offer us their teachings we can adjust our perspective and the fear and suffering can be averted. That's why people follow them. Medicine can prolong life and dull physical pain. This is great and the people that do it deserve a lot of appreciation. So do people that work to minimize other kinds of suffering.

      Suffering is bad. Minimizing it is good.
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      Actually if you counted all the words (including the title, not concluding the words in the link, those two words connected by a dash and only counting a contraction as one word) divided it by the number in the second paragraph of the op then the percentage was 59.72%
      "For a long time it gave me nightmares, having to witness an injustice like that. It was a constant reminder of how unfair this world can be, I can still hear them taunting him. 'Silly Rabbit, Trix are for kids!'... How come they just couldn't give him some cereal?"

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