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      Thumbs up The Fundamental Comparison of Waking Physics and Dream Physics

      Our experience is necessarily that of the middle distance in/of space, in our waking and dream experience. Dream experience is that of the middle distance in/of space consistent with half gravity and half inertia and fundamentally equivalent and balanced gravity, inertia, and electromagnetism. Dream experience fully involves quantum gravity. Dreams balance being and experience. The ultimate unification of physics combines, balances, and includes opposites. Dreams combine, balance, and include opposites. Unification in physics demands and involves a balancing of being AND experience.

      Newton believed that inertia must be a property of space itself. Nobody, to this day, can truly and fundamentally explain gravitational and inertial equivalency and balancing. Given full inertia, space disperses. Given full gravity, space collapses. What is at issue here is the very extensiveness of space itself. Physics does not get more important than this.

      Invisible AND visible space in FUNDAMENTAL equilibrium and balance IS the middle distance in/of space consistent with half gravity and half inertia. (Notice the cancelling/balancing that is involved with this unification.) This is a fundamental and huge truth in physics. This applies to both dream physics and waking physics. The Earth/ground is full gravity. Outer space is full inertia. The invisible space/sky extends/is between both. Notice here that dream experience is consistent with that of the eye/body. Dream experience is the middle distance (and is invisible) in relation to visible waking experience.

      VISION begins INVISIBLY within the eye/body. The experience of the eye/body is INVISIBLE to the viewer, while the eye/body is ALSO seen as VISIBLE (when looking at someone else). The invisible space/sky is between (and consistent/involved with) this important equivalency and balancing. Moreover, we have a balancing of being AND experience. Accordingly, invisible AND visible space in FUNDAMENTAL equilibrium and balance IS the middle distance in/of space consistent with half gravity and half inertia. The quantum mechanical nature of matter and energy is known. The eye and body are visible and invisible.

      Picture yourself standing upright on the ground/Earth. Put the invisible eye/body at the top of the head. (The space is also invisible there.) Drive this to the center of the body. Take the visible plane of the Earth/ground along with the visible body and drive this to the center of the body. That is dream experience.
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      Go back to school and take an English class. I'm going to guess that writing has never been your forte, whether or not you'e published books or whatever it is that you have accomplished. All I can gather from any of your posts is that you lack the ability to practically and coherently convey your ideas to anyone other than yourself (though with how you've been trying to explain it I'm not sure it's even possible for you to know what you're talking about). Please, I would very much like to be able to treat you as an adult and take part in a meaningful discussion on whatever subject you're trying to spark conversation over, but you keep using this terrible, completely unreadable grammar, diction, and sentence structure. If you could modify the way you wrote so that everyone can understand what you're trying to say, whatever it is you are trying to accomplish by sharing this information would be a whole lot easier.

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      Did Deepak Chopra hijack this guy's account? I have no idea what he's saying.
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      Its hard to tell, bit I'm fairly sure this is a carbon copy of one of his other threads. If I could actually understand the bloody thing, I might be certain. As it stands, I'm convinced he's some sort of gimmick troll and not a very good one at that.

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      Quote Originally Posted by splodeymissile View Post
      Its hard to tell, bit I'm fairly sure this is a carbon copy of one of his other threads. If I could actually understand the bloody thing, I might be certain. As it stands, I'm convinced he's some sort of gimmick troll and not a very good one at that.
      It's easy, just take half an ounce of invisible eye, put it on the top of your head. Weight out the half inertia and do a twirl. I found that quite easy to understand...I mean, physics right?

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      Quote Originally Posted by dutchraptor View Post
      It's easy, just take half an ounce of invisible eye, put it on the top of your head. Weight out the half inertia and do a twirl. I found that quite easy to understand...I mean, physics right?
      Oh, that makes perfect sense. Do I need scales to weigh it?
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      Full inertia is outer space, as it is the direct and entire removal and reduction of our being, thought, and experience (including visual experience). This space is black, there is weightlessness, and we are not touching outer space. Outer space is fully detached and removed in relation to touch/tactile experience.

      Full gravity is full distance in/of space as it is seen, felt, and touched. Full gravity involves full mobility in conjunction with, and in relation to, full distance in/of space. (Carefully consider the visible space relation here.) The Earth/ground is not detached in relation to our experience of touch/tactile experience. Consider the range of touch/feeling.

      Dream experience is half inertia and half gravity consistent with the balancing of being and experience, the experience of the middle distance in/of space, fundamentally equivalent and balanced gravity, inertia, and electromagnetism, and invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance. Consider the range of touch/feeling, as dream experience is semi-detached in relation to touch/feeling. Indeed, further hard proof comes in here consistent with the fact that dream experience does involve a maximum of half of the force/feeling/touch/energy that is experienced at the feet while waking and standing. Dream experience is possible/potential and actual. The eye is visible and invisible, and the body is visible and invisible. Dreams are quantum gravity, ideally/theoretically and actually/observationally. Notice that the eye/body is visible and invisible. Vision begins invisibly inside the eye/body. Dream experience involves fundamentally equivalent and balanced inertial/gravitational/electromagnetic energy/force/feeling/touch.

      Now, take the plane of invisible space at the top of the head while waking and standing. Line up the invisible eye/body at the top of the head. Drive this right angle relation to the center of the body. Take the plane of the visible space at the Earth/ground. Line up the visible body. Drive this right angle to the center of the body. That is dream experience.

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      Now, it gets even better. Full gravity is full distance in/of space as it is seen, felt, and touched while waking and standing. Dream experience is that of the middle distance in/of space (half gravity and half inertia). Dream experience is possible/potential and actual. Television is a creation of thought, as it is fully like (or fully similar to) thought. Television is fully detached and removed in relation to touch/tactile experience, as television is full inertia and full electromagnetism. Notice that the distance in/of space is, accordingly, entirely eliminated/flattened. Dreams make thought more like sensory experience in general (including visual). Are we not out of touch with reality in the experience of television? We always begin with typical, ordinary, foundational/fundamental, and natural experience in establishing physical truths/fundamentals.

      1) Dreams are not a creation of thought.

      2) Note that outer space is flat as well.

      3) Note that space that is invisible and visible in fundamental equilibrium and balance is the middle distance in/of space (logically, clearly, and fundamentally) by definition and of necessity. The space between the Earth/ground and outer space is a middle space. Notice the seamless whole with the invisible eye/body and invisible space. Full gravity, space collapses. Full inertia, space disperses. It all makes sense.

      4) The eye/body is visible and invisible. The ultimate unification of physics combines, balances, and includes opposites. Dreams combine, balance, and include opposites. Alas, there is no outsmarting the genius of dreams. Dreams balance being and experience. The ultimate unification of physics/physical experience (seen, felt, and touched) balances being and experience.

      The modern, mainstream, academic physicists consider this unification a nightmare. I consider it a dream come true. It makes perfect, complete, and consistent sense.

      by Author Frank DiMeglio
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      We still have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
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      Dream experience is that of the middle distance in/of space in conjunction with quantum gravity and visible and invisible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance (seen and felt/touched). Dreams balance being and experience in conjunction with half gravity and half inertia.

      Invisible AND visible space in FUNDAMENTAL equilibrium and balance IS the middle distance in/of space consistent with half gravity and half inertia. (Notice the cancelling/balancing that is involved with this unification.) This is a fundamental and huge truth in physics. This applies to both dream physics and waking physics. Only you see, feel, and touch what you see, feel, and touch.

      The perception/passage of time in dreams is known to be consistent with waking experience, AND the change is almost instantaneous from dream experience to waking experience. Thought is more like sensory experience (including visual) in dreams, thereby improving upon memory and understanding. If dream experience is only separate, how could we know of waking experience while experiencing dream experience? The spaces must be fundamentally related, linked, and constituted.

      Touch the visible space at the top of your head. This is visible and visible space. You feel it at both ends. However, one does not feel anything from the Earth/ground. Our experience is that of the middle distance in/of space. Full distance in/of space is middle distance in/of space. Look straight down at the Earth/ground while waking and standing. The invisible experience of space extends all the way down to the Earth/ground. The invisible eye/body and invisible space are balanced. Now, the visible body extends up from the visible ground as well, in balance. [B]Invisible AND visible space in FUNDAMENTAL equilibrium and balance IS the middle distance in/of space consistent with half gravity and half inertia.

      We do not live, see, and experience in the ground/Earth. Full gravity, space collapses. We do not live, see, and experience in outer space (directly, fully, actually). Full inertia, space disperses. The invisible space that we exist in/experience is between full inertia (outer space) and full gravity (the Earth/ground).

      Waking experience is basically visible (to all), and yet it is basically not visible/invisible (to others/all)....what you see is what you see. Dream experience is visible in relation to waking experience. (It can be while waking), and yet dream experience is invisible in relation to waking experience. Invisible AND visible space in FUNDAMENTAL equilibrium and balance IS the middle distance in/of space consistent with half gravity and half inertia. This applies to dream experience and waking experience. Dream experience involves balanced middle strength force/energy/feeling/touch in conjunction with the experience of the middle distance in/of space (seen and felt/touched). Notice the maximum of middle (or half) feeling/touch in dreams in comparison with waking experience while standing. Dream experience is possible/potential and actual.

      VISION begins INVISIBLY within the eye/body. The experience of the eye/body is INVISIBLE to the viewer, while the eye/body is ALSO seen as VISIBLE (when looking at someone else). The invisible space/sky is between (and consistent/involved with) this important equivalency and balancing. The invisible space that we exist in must (and does) have the fundamental properties of visibility and invisibility.
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      If you have some idea that you're trying to get across, and you want people to understand what it is without question, simplifying your writing.

      I have no idea if you're actually an author or not, but your writing is awful. Nobody has any idea what you're talking about.
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      I Google this guy and found this: Author Frank DiMeglio

      The way he writes and uses terms like "full inertia" and "full gravity" makes it seem like he's pulling pseudosciece right out of his ass.
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      The ultimate nature of reality

      The self represents, forms, and experiences a comprehensive approximation of experience in general by combining conscious and unconscious experience. This is a very great truth/fact. Dream experience is consistent with this fact. If the self did not represent, form, and experience a comprehensive approximation of experience in general by combining conscious and unconscious experience, we would then be incapable of growth and of becoming other than we are. Dreams involve the fundamental experience of our growth and becoming other than we are. In dream experience, we are conscious and alive in conjunction with the fundamental experience of our growth and becoming other than we are. Therefore, and consistent with all of this:

      1) Dream experience and waking experience are fundamentally, necessarily, and ultimately linked, related, and constituted, and yet they are separate as well. Dream experience grows/increases.
      2) There is no outsmarting the genius of dreams.
      3) Dreams balance being and experience.
      4) Dream experience is invisible/not visible in relation to visible waking experience.
      5) Dreams involve fundamentally and ultimately equivalent and balanced inertia, gravity, and electromagnetism (i.e., half gravity and half inertia). Dream experience involves equivalent and balanced repulsion and attraction. Dream experience includes and involves quantum gravity.
      6) Dream experience is possible/potential and actual.
      7) The self as conscious and alive in conjunction with the fundamental experience of our growth and becoming other than we are would ultimately, theoretically, actually, and fundamentally unify physics/physical experience (including seen and felt/touched).
      8) Invisible AND visible space in FUNDAMENTAL equilibrium and balance IS the middle distance in/of space (logically, fundamentally, and clearly) consistent with half gravity and half inertia. This applies to stabilized and full distance in/of space as it is seen AND felt/touched in both our waking and standing and dream experiences. (Notice that instantaneity applies to the extension of space.) Being and experience are necessarily and fundamentally visible and invisible in balance.
      9) Thoughts are invisible. Thoughts are not visible or visual experience. Thought is MORE LIKE like sensory experience (including visual) in dreams, thereby improving upon memory and UNDERSTANDING. The ability of thought to describe OR reconfigure sensory experience is ULTIMATELY dependent upon the extent to which thought is similar to sensory experience.

      Notice that television is an [unnatural] creation of thought, as it is FULLY LIKE (or fully similar to) thought. Accordingly, natural visual experience is entirely ELIMINATED in the case of television. Again, thoughts are INVISIBLE. Dream experience is not a creation of thought. Notice that dream experience is possible/potential and actual. Again, there is no outsmarting the genius of dreams. Think about it.

      by Author Frank Martin DiMeglio
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      ^^ That's gotta be the tenth time that exact post has appeared on these forums... I sure hope you're cutting and pasting, Frank, and this stuff doesn't just keep welling up like something new in your mind.

      Oh, and per Blueline, your words are as unreadable as ever; you might consider hiring a translator.
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      Yep still not the slightest clue as to what his point is.
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      WHAT DREAMS REALLY ARE: more on the full description and understanding of dreams.

      We all originate (and grow) at/from the center of the human body. Think about it. Our growth and becoming other than we are takes place at the center of the mother's body. It is linked with HER body and experience. In dreams, we are conscious and alive in conjunction with the fundamental experience of our growth and becoming other than we are. (The umbilical cord comes into the center of our body.) The experience of dreaming is linked with your body and your experience.

      Dream experience (seen and felt/touched) is that of the middle distance in/of space consistent with balanced [middle strength] energy/force/feeling/touch. Notice that there is a maximum of balanced half (or middle) strength feeling/touch in comparison with that of waking and standing experience.

      Dream experience is a linked center of body experience. Accordingly, the proportionate [and relative] reduction of both thought and feeling also links dream experience with the center of the body. Envision thought as being reduced from the top of the body downwards, and feeling as being reduced from the feet/ground upwards. In dreams, the proportionate and relative reduction of thought and the range and extensiveness of feeling is consistent with the electromagnetic, inertial, and gravitational equivalency and balancing.

      It is truly bizarre that all of my ideas here are basically ignored or ridiculed as being wrong.
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      We can neither ignore or riducule your ideas, Frank, if we have no idea what you are talking about...yet you continiue to ignore every one of our requests for clarification. Hell, you ignore us, period. You just keep posting the same unreadable stuff over and over.

      Show us a little respect, Frank, and maybe me will reciprocate.

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      Over-used stock character.

      These posts are reminiscent of the movies when a brilliant scientist gains forbidden/transcendental knowledge, but it is too powerful, and he becomes overwhelmed/engulfed. I can see a pupil-less manic DiMeglio, nervously rattling off fragments of divine truth, as he/she gains enhanced super powers AND embarks to destroy the heroes of the story(the lucid dreamers!!!)

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      He's still going? Well, he's at least persistent, if nothing else.

      A bit of clarity would go a long way.

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      ^^ I'm not sure "persistent" is quite the right word in this case...I'm also not sure clarity will ever happen, though it might not hurt to keep asking, in case Frank has a sudden bout of lucidity one of hese days. Who knows? Maybe he really does have something to say.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Sageous View Post
      ^^ I'm not sure "persistent" is quite the right word in this case...I'm also not sure clarity will ever happen, though it might not hurt to keep asking, in case Frank has a sudden bout of lucidity one of hese days. Who knows? Maybe he really does have something to say.


      Do you think Frank is schizophrenic ?. can we diagnose via the internet?..

      I think he has said enough that it would be a fair diagnoses

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      No, I could not tell if Frank is schizophrenic from some posts on a website ... nobody could, or should.

      Frank might be sick, but he also might just be a troll, just plain stubborn, or perhaps lost in a sort of transcendental fog that denies him an ability to truly explain what he knows. The last one is pretty farfetched, though, because even folks who cannot explain their transcendental experiences can still communicate normal thoughts, respond to questions, and realize they are repeating the same unreadable gibberish ad nausea. .

      We strangers on a forum cannot know for sure; it's up to Frank -- or perhaps his next of kin -- to explain what all his discoveries/wisdom/insane rants/trolling crap is really about.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Sageous View Post
      No, I could not tell if Frank is schizophrenic from some posts on a website ... nobody could, or should.

      Frank might be sick, but he also might just be a troll, just plain stubborn, or perhaps lost in a sort of transcendental fog that denies him an ability to truly explain what he knows. The last one is pretty farfetched, though, because even folks who cannot explain their transcendental experiences can still communicate normal thoughts, respond to questions, and realize they are repeating the same unreadable gibberish ad nausea. .

      We strangers on a forum cannot know for sure; it's up to Frank -- or perhaps his next of kin -- to explain what all his discoveries/wisdom/insane rants/trolling crap is really about.

      If he is a troll, he is obviously ill. Anyone of sound mind does not waste a life trolling on the net. I believe he believes he is on to something that nobody understands. He claims he should win the Nobel
      peace prize and has been invited to speak at Cambridge as an Intellectual. Both statements here are delusional/psychotic and would suggest Schizophrenia. A shrink seeks out those types
      of remarks when he is seeking a diagnoses.

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      It sounds like you know Frank personally, Dave... I guess that would give you opportunity for insight into Frank's state of mind, wouldn't it? I guess it would also explain your apparent anger with Frank.

      Wouldn't Frank want a Nobel Prize for physics, and not the Peace Prize?

      Also, I don't believe a responsible psychiatrist would ever diagnose someone over the internet.

      Finally, isn't a troll defined as somebody who wastes his life trolling the net? Are all trolls crazy?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Sageous View Post
      It sounds like you know Frank personally, Dave... I guess that would give you opportunity for insight into Frank's state of mind, wouldn't it? I guess it would also explain your apparent anger with Frank.

      Wouldn't Frank want a Nobel Prize for physics, and not the Peace Prize?

      Also, I don't believe a responsible psychiatrist would ever diagnose someone over the internet.

      Finally, isn't a troll defined as somebody who wastes his life trolling the net? Are all trolls crazy?

      A diagnosis is not an anger issue. What do I have against Frank?. Nothing. Im diagnosing him as any normal human with compassion should.

      100 different shrinks can have 100 different diagnosis. Im not a shrink but Ive seen many cases of this disorder and he is very similar.

      It sounds like you, Sageous , has some sort of baseline anxiety problem. See how good Im getting at this?

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