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Hey everyone! I havent been on in a looong time. I checked the forums every once in a while but i thought all that crap was boring! So i decided to make this topic cos all the other ones are so stupid! I think paperdoll is a fugget nugget Lmao Do you think she is?
A fugget nugget indeed.
What the hell is a fugget nugget anyway? :?
I was meaning to say fag muffin and i accidently said fugget then one of my friends said "fugget nugget" so..thats the story.
I think PD is a human. I am not sure of the fag part though since PD's sexuality is not know to me so I cannot say.
Like I say in my profile...
"And Paperdoll is Paperdoll. Enough already."
I think she likes buttsaix with X
This could get you into some serious doo doo. My suggestion: ride that gas all the way to Antarctica before the Paperdoll finds you...
Who is at liberty to tell EP?
As she might say, "It's Paperdoll, thank you." Just Paperdoll. Nothing fancy.Quote:
Originally posted by Yume
Who is at liberty to tell EP?
Who is at liberty to tell Paperdoll?Quote:
Originally posted by Rakkantekimusouka+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Rakkantekimusouka)</div>Quote:
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As she might say, \"It's Paperdoll, thank you.\" Just Paperdoll. Nothing fancy.[/b]Quote:
Who is at liberty to tell EP?
hah...some of you have no idea :P
way to give it away
i know what it is i really really do !!Quote:
Originally posted by Kaniaz
way to give it away
im not scared of the he she!! lol The all mighty powerful he she is still a fugget nugget :shock:Quote:
Originally posted by Amethyst Star
This could get you into some serious doo doo. My suggestion: ride that gas all the way to Antarctica before the Paperdoll finds you...
your avatar is ugly
:DQuote:
Originally posted by Kaniaz
way to give it away
My avatar is ugly??? YOU DREW IT! LMAO
Man this is like being inside a school yard for the mentally challenged social misfits.
If its just a joke and not serious then more fool me HAHAHAHAHAHA(lol).
I voted "NO".
loser
I VOTED YES!
Lmao
OMFG i found out what "ep" means!! extinct poop! lmao
kittie and paperdoll have the same ip address hmmmmmmmmmmmmm :idea:
doesn't mean a awful lot.
what DOES it mean :?
okay, i lied :P
every time you get connect to your ISP you're given an IP which is (simplified down alot) a bunch of numbers seperated by a bunch of dots. mine right now is 172.200.255.233. no other computer in the world right now is also on the IP 172.200.255.233 (there are many exceptions to this rule but going into them is beyond the scope of this). my IP changes when i disconnect and reconnect, so somebody else will be 172.200.255.233 later today. if you type http://172.200.255.233 into your browser it will go to my computer, but you'll just get a "connection was refused" error because i have no webserver or anything running to handle your request (so it ignores it).
when you go to a page, your IP goes with it. phpBB logs your IPs.
so, therefore if kitty and paperdoll have a bunch of IPs that are the same, that means that either:
A) They are on the same ISP and were given the same number (at different times). This is unlikely but it still happens. If the IP's match often then this reason is usually nullified.
B) They use the same computer/internet connection.
or, finally:
C) They are the same person.
that's really simplified but basically what it means/what you care about. i could go into further detail but it would be pointless.
thanks Kaniaz :wink:
This is confusing, so is kittie11 and Paperdoll EP the same person? One big joke on his/her behalf to confuse the hell out of us?
i knew it was paperdoll no dares to insult paperdoll unless its paperdollQuote:
Originally posted by Mystical_Journey
This is confusing, so is kittie11 and Paperdoll EP the same person? One big joke on his/her behalf to confuse the hell out of us?
and its not he/she its he/she/it you need to know these things
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Originally posted by Kaniaz
okay, i lied :P
every time you get connect to your ISP you're given an IP which is (simplified down alot) a bunch of numbers seperated by a bunch of dots. mine right now is 172.200.255.233. no other computer in the world right now is also on the IP 172.200.255.233 (there are many exceptions to this rule but going into them is beyond the scope of this). my IP changes when i disconnect and reconnect, so somebody else will be 172.200.255.233 later today. if you type http://172.200.255.233 into your browser it will go to my computer, but you'll just get a \"connection was refused\" error because i have no webserver or anything running to handle your request (so it ignores it).
when you go to a page, your IP goes with it. phpBB logs your IPs.
so, therefore if kitty and paperdoll have a bunch of IPs that are the same, that means that either:
A) They are on the same ISP and were given the same number (at different times). This is unlikely but it still happens. If the IP's match often then this reason is usually nullified.
B) They use the same computer/internet connection.
or, finally:
C) They are the same person.
that's really simplified but basically what it means/what you care about. i could go into further detail but it would be pointless.
C isnt correct...Its so obvious! Do i even speak like the almighty powerful he she?...umm...No!
I don't intend to sound mean...but does it really matter?
Only to yourself i guess
Is Paperdoll your sister Kittie? :? wild guess
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Originally posted by Kaniaz
okay, i lied :P
every time you get connect to your ISP you're given an IP which is (simplified down alot) a bunch of numbers seperated by a bunch of dots. mine right now is 172.200.255.233. no other computer in the world right now is also on the IP 172.200.255.233 (there are many exceptions to this rule but going into them is beyond the scope of this). my IP changes when i disconnect and reconnect, so somebody else will be 172.200.255.233 later today. if you type http://172.200.255.233 into your browser it will go to my computer, but you'll just get a \"connection was refused\" error because i have no webserver or anything running to handle your request (so it ignores it).
when you go to a page, your IP goes with it. phpBB logs your IPs.
so, therefore if kitty and paperdoll have a bunch of IPs that are the same, that means that either:
A) They are on the same ISP and were given the same number (at different times). This is unlikely but it still happens. If the IP's match often then this reason is usually nullified.
B) They use the same computer/internet connection.
or, finally:
C) They are the same person.
that's really simplified but basically what it means/what you care about. i could go into further detail but it would be pointless.
spare us the biglengthytechnicalnerdy lecture. please.
I think I share an IP with sitboy, do you think we're the same person?
I'm pretty sure plenty of people share an IP address with me, I saw a list. am I all those people?
I will tell you right now, I only use one account.
I just saw your posts kittie, you're awesome, even though you eat POOP
Um...I appreciated it? Maybe I'm just a nerd. :smartie:Quote:
Originally posted by Paperdoll EP+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Paperdoll EP)</div>Quote:
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okay, i lied :P
every time you get connect to your ISP you're given an IP which is (simplified down alot) a bunch of numbers seperated by a bunch of dots. mine right now is 172.200.255.233. no other computer in the world right now is also on the IP 172.200.255.233 (there are many exceptions to this rule but going into them is beyond the scope of this). my IP changes when i disconnect and reconnect, so somebody else will be 172.200.255.233 later today. if you type http://172.200.255.233 into your browser it will go to my computer, but you'll just get a \"connection was refused\" error because i have no webserver or anything running to handle your request (so it ignores it).
when you go to a page, your IP goes with it. phpBB logs your IPs.
so, therefore if kitty and paperdoll have a bunch of IPs that are the same, that means that either:
A) They are on the same ISP and were given the same number (at different times). This is unlikely but it still happens. If the IP's match often then this reason is usually nullified.
B) They use the same computer/internet connection.
or, finally:
C) They are the same person.
that's really simplified but basically what it means/what you care about. i could go into further detail but it would be pointless.
spare us the biglengthytechnicalnerdy lecture. please. [/b]
omg I'm surrounded by nerds! +throughs a gadget across the room in hopes to distract them to ESCAPE+
oops I mean....BOOK! nerds = books, GEEKS = gadgets.
then that means you guys are actually geeks, right, right...
well...you ARE on the internet...what do you expect...a bunch of "cool kids" eh?
embrace your inner geek!
I guess I'm the only COOL person here then...+leans back against the wall and lights up a ciggerette+
:bowdown:Quote:
Originally posted by Paperdoll EP
I guess I'm the only COOL person here then...+leans back against the wall and lights up a ciggerette+
I beg to differ. *opens up another bottle then lights 2 ciggies"Quote:
Originally posted by Paperdoll EP
I guess I'm the only COOL person here then...+leans back against the wall and lights up a ciggerette+
Kaniaz it isn't very good to give your IP address out.
*hacks into Kaniaz's computer*
Hmm... nothing worth stealing.... except the pictures of his animals.
*leaves*
He Didn't???Quote:
Originally posted by Yume
Kaniaz it isn't very good to give your IP address out.
penis
It doesn't really matter. Your IP is given out to every page. If crackers want your IP it's pretty simple to get it. You're logged wth it everywhere. Some security fanatic will scream "OH NO DON'T GIVE YOUR IP OUT" but it's hardly a ticket to be hacked. Hey, crackers, come over here! *jumps up and down* Right now it's 172.200.255.233. *nothing happens*Quote:
Originally posted by Yume
Kaniaz it isn't very good to give your IP address out.
Heh, just saw this poll.
I voted "heck yes."
PD has always had a fugget-nuggety air about her.
PD voted heck yes for herself. LmaoQuote:
Originally posted by OpheliaBlue
Heh, just saw this poll.
I voted \"heck yes.\"
PD has always had a fugget-nuggety air about her.
His IP changes every time he logs anyways. I think he has dial-up.Quote:
Originally posted by Kaniaz+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kaniaz)</div>Quote:
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It doesn't really matter. [/b]Quote:
Kaniaz it isn't very good to give your IP address out.
It'd be more risky for a person with a static IP like me to do what he did.
I still don't understand what a fugget nugget is.
and still it wouldn't matter.
Nuh uh.Quote:
Originally posted by Kaniaz
and still it wouldn't matter.
Uh huh. All the domains in the world have static IP's (well, there are exceptions to everything, inclusive this), but not all of them have been hacked,
Trust me, the least of your worries is somebody getting your IP (shock! horror!).
Some hackers scan huge amounts of IPs systematically, even if you've never been to any site, anywhere that could of logged it (pretty useless to have, but still). So there's not really a point to being so protective about your IP. It's pretty silly really. Of course, hiding it makes things a bit harder, but revealing it increases your chances of being hacked by what, 0.0001%? That's if a hacker actually sees the point of breaking into your system, which is unlikely.
Hackers are humans beings and only hack where it benefits them, they don't just hack any IP that appears in their face.
Nevertheless, if a hacker wants to hack you they will get your IP. It gets sent out to every single page on the internet you go to, every download, etc. It gets everywhere. When you loaded this page, your IP got logged with Dreamviews. Setting up a website that just logs every IP that comes and then trying to hack them all is not hard, it would take me 3 seconds to do right now (press "start" on apache then give you the link), and it's easy for you to click and bam, there it goes.
It is not some secret number that will save you if they don't know it, because all it takes from you is one click on a website they design, them to get a log from somewhere, you to get a virus they craft, etc etc and they have it.
Of course then there's the fact they have to actually hack you. And hacking isn't so much as a "i have your ip, i click hack and you are hacked". It takes alot of time (exceptions, yes) and why would they want to hack you, a IP among tons, a IP that has no value and no reason to be hacked anyway?
Still, if you want to be protective about your IP, do so. It's yours and not mine. What you should worry about is not wether or not somebody has your IP (nobody cares) but if you have a firewall, and anti-virus, and other stuff like that. Once again, the IP is just this wonderful number that identifies you and won't save you from anything if people don't know it.
A fugget nugget is another way of saying fag muffin. I made it up..Quote:
Originally posted by Squall+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Squall)</div>Quote:
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Originally posted by Kaniaz@
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His IP changes every time he logs anyways. I think he has dial-up.Quote:
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Kaniaz it isn't very good to give your IP address out.
It doesn't really matter.
It'd be more risky for a person with a static IP like me to do what he did.
I still don't understand what a fugget nugget is.[/b]
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Originally posted by CT
penis
lmao
random ol' ct :P
yeah, random old CT, too bad he took that from me
the penis trend setter?
You still need the IP to hack someone. So giving it out is still stupid even if it can be easily found by other means. And remember some viruses are made so anyone can exploit them, and it might as well be clicking a 'hack' button.Quote:
Originally posted by Kaniaz
Hackers are humans beings and only hack where it benefits them, they don't just hack any IP that appears in their face.
And I don't know why we're arguing about this anyways. :shakehead2:
Logic flaw.Quote:
You still need the IP to hack someone. So giving it out is still stupid even if it can be easily found by other means.[/b]
I always pursue something like this right to the bitter end.Quote:
And I don't know why we're arguing about this anyways. :shakehead2:[/b]
It's good to have someone like you doing this. I feel informed.Quote:
Originally posted by Kaniaz
Logic flaw.Quote:
You still need the IP to hack someone. So giving it out is still stupid even if it can be easily found by other means.
I always pursue something like this right to the bitter end.[/b]Quote:
And I don't know why we're arguing about this anyways. :shakehead2:[/b]
Why is it a logic flaw? I simply meant that even if it can be found out, it would still be stupid to go about posting it everywhere.Quote:
Originally posted by Kaniaz
Logic flaw.[/b]Quote:
You still need the IP to hack someone. So giving it out is still stupid even if it can be easily found by other means.
Not at all. If it can be found out easily, you will not be doing anything stupid by posting anywhere - security wise, anyway. Posting your IP would be pointless and stupid (because nobody cares what it is), but it would not be a security risk whatsoever. So the logic is flawed.Quote:
Originally posted by Squall+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Squall)</div>Quote:
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Why is it a logic flaw? I simply meant that even if it can be found out, it would still be stupid to go about posting it everywhere.[/b]Quote:
Logic flaw.[/b]Quote:
You still need the IP to hack someone. So giving it out is still stupid even if it can be easily found by other means.
OMG! I missed this one. Guess the only comment I can add to this thread is *boobies*
I beg to differ. For example only about 20 of 3000 people here can get the IP of someone else posting here. Second getting someone's IP's the first step to hacking someone, and there are malicious individuals who hack for fun. There are also items on people's computers that they want to keep secret, like passwords etc. Thus, posting it everywhere isn't smart.Quote:
Originally posted by Kaniaz+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kaniaz)</div>Quote:
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Originally posted by Squall@
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Not at all. If it can be found out easily, you will not be doing anything stupid by posting anywhere - security wise, anyway. Posting your IP would be pointless and stupid (because nobody cares what it is), but it would not be a security risk whatsoever. So the logic is flawed.[/b]Quote:
Why is it a logic flaw? I simply meant that even if it can be found out, it would still be stupid to go about posting it everywhere.[/b]Quote:
Logic flaw.Quote:
You still need the IP to hack someone. So giving it out is still stupid even if it can be easily found by other means.
Then differ.Quote:
Originally posted by Squall
I beg to differ. For example only about 20 of 3000 people here can get the IP of someone else posting here. Second getting someone's IP's the first step to hacking someone, and there are malicious individuals who hack for fun. There are also items on people's computers that they want to keep secret, like passwords etc. Thus, posting it everywhere isn't smart.
The idea that there is a group of people that hack for fun is a misconception widely held by people. Yes, there is a group of these people but no, as much as some companies might scare you and make it sound like, these people don't hack everything in front of them. They hack things that will benefit them. Squall's home computer for example isn't the most exciting target to hack in the universe. You won't get hacked unless you are picked out of 3849023890 IPs out there on the internet. And once again, they bulk scan. Hiding your IP is not going to provide any security benefits except against a real dim-wit of a hacker that has been possesed by Satan to come and ruin your shit for no reason whatsoever.
Also, you are wrong in saying that only twenty people can get your IP here out of 3000 people. Somebody with time can get it, and without the use of hacking either. All they need to do is post an image here which is linked to a php script which in turn logs your IP. Instant IP, and you didn't even go to a site that time. Your IP is not very hard to get. Making a point of hiding it is pointless. You just loaded a image. And while it's there, it can get your browser information (user agent), operating system, language, etc. This was demonstrated by Kalmah's signature once, remember it?
Here it is again:
http://www.danasoft.com/vipersig.jpg
BAM. There's your IP. If that was my script, it would take a little modification before I would have the IP of anybody who visited this page. If I made it my signature, i could do it across all of DV and soon build up plenty of IPs to hack. It could even be a stealthy one, that was just a normal signature image, but still logged every IP that came. You wouldn't have the slightest idea it had happened. Once again, it's pointless to hide your IP. It is broadcasted everywhere.
Posting your IP does not mean you will get hacked. If they want your password, etc, they will get it regardless of wether or not you have posted your IP, as I demonstrated above. It really is that easy to get your IP. There is, therefore, no point in hiding it.Quote:
There are also items on people's computers that they want to keep secret, like passwords etc. Thus, posting it everywhere isn't smart.[/b]
How does just anyone get access to the logged IP off of that script? That information is restricted too. You will need to build your own, too much trouble for most of the wannabe hackers out there.Quote:
Originally posted by Kaniaz+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kaniaz)</div>I been hacked twice before. Once was my account on an online game that was worth a lot of money. Another time regarded my email account that ended up pretty ugly.Quote:
Squall's home computer for example isn't the most exciting target to hack in the universe. You won't get hacked unless you are picked out of 3849023890 IPs out there on the internet.[/b]
Yes, that was my point. You'd feel stupid if you got hacked by some dimwit using a click-and-hack keylogger or virus. Not posting your IP around everywhere prevents that from happening.Quote:
Originally posted by Kaniaz@
Hiding your IP is not going to provide any security benefits except against a real dim-wit of a hacker that has been possesed by Satan to come and ruin your shit for no reason whatsoever.
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Somebody with time can get it, and without the use of hacking either. All they need to do is post an image here which is linked to a php script which in turn logs your IP. Instant IP, and you didn't even go to a site that time.
This is not to do with your IP. E-mail addresses and game accounts are found through other means.Quote:
I been hacked twice before. Once was my account on an online game that was worth a lot of money. Another time regarded my email account that ended up pretty ugly.Quote:
Squall's home computer for example isn't the most exciting target to hack in the universe. You won't get hacked unless you are picked out of 3849023890 IPs out there on the internet.
Yes, that was my point. You'd feel stupid if you got hacked by some dimwit using a click-and-hack keylogger or virus. Not posting your IP around everywhere prevents that from happening.Quote:
Hiding your IP is not going to provide any security benefits except against a real dim-wit of a hacker that has been possesed by Satan to come and ruin your shit for no reason whatsoever.
How does just anyone get access to the logged IP off of that script? That information is restricted too. You will need to build your own, too much trouble for most of the wannabe hackers out there.[/quote]Quote:
Somebody with time can get it, and without the use of hacking either. All they need to do is post an image here which is linked to a php script which in turn logs your IP. Instant IP, and you didn't even go to a site that time.
http://172.200.88.239/purdy.jpg
I built one just to prove my point. See that image above? That just logged your ip. Here's the list of every IP that's loaded that paticular image. The code consisted of ten lines of code, minus the <?php ?> tags.Here's the code, if you want it:
And an seperate script:Code:
<?php
$ip = $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'];
$handler=fopen("/home/springf1/public_html/ips.txt", "a");
fwrite($handler, $ip . '::');
fclose($handler);
header ("Content-type: image/png");
$img_handle = imageCreateFromPNG("http://www.icemelon.com/images/tutorials/bannerboy.png");
$color = ImageColorAllocate ($img_handle, 100, 100, 100);
ImageString ($img_handle, 3, 10, 9, *"Your IP: $ip", $color);
ImagePng ($img_handle);
ImageDestroy ($img_handle);
?>
To run a loop round BBCode thinking it was a php script and not a image.Code:
<?php
header("Location: http://host194.ipowerweb.com/~springf1/blog/img.php");
?>
It was not rocket science. I made it in the time between my post before and post now - minus the time to make this post- (I based it off some code for an IP signature then just edited it to include logging, hence the icemelon.com thing). It was easy.
First, that IP it's showing isn't my IP. :wink:Quote:
Originally posted by Kaniaz+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kaniaz)</div>You need the IP to lock onto a certain computer with a keylogger. Which is how I lost my pass for those 2 things.Quote:
This is not to do with your IP. E-mail addresses and game accounts are found through other means.[/b]
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I built one just to prove my point. See that image above? That just logged your ip. Here's the list of every IP that's loaded that paticular image. The code consisted of ten lines of code, minus the <?php ?> tags.Here's the code, if you want it:
Second, I don't think there's many wannabe hackers who actually know PHP or a programming language. My whole point is that most of them are like "I wanna hack and steal some's pass cause it makes me leet. Let me go download a script! Omgz yers."
Cool, but that is the address of my gateway, there are about 12,000 of us hiding behind it! I've also noticed that about 25 dreamviews regulars come through the same AOL IP.Quote:
You need the IP to lock onto a certain computer with a keylogger. Which is how I lost my pass for those 2 things. [/quote]Quote:
This is not to do with your IP. E-mail addresses and game accounts are found through other means.
Not always a keylogger. Brute forcing password techniques might of been used (although I don't know, I wasn't hacked). And also, you don't have to have the IP of the computer to \"lock on\" to it (at least, not in some cases) If you download a keylogger it can phone home to their IP, and not yours. So, wrong.
First, that IP it's showing isn't my IP. :wink: [/quote]Quote:
I built one just to prove my point. See that image above? That just logged your ip. Here's the list of every IP that's loaded that paticular image. The code consisted of ten lines of code, minus the <?php ?> tags.Here's the code, if you want it:
It uses the same variable as Danasoft's one does (it's PHP). I probably did a booby in the code, I was just banging something together and it isn't perfect. If I was a hacker after it, I would of refined the script alot more (although I wasn't going to bother, as I don't see the point). What does it say, out of curiosity? Is it different to what the Danasoft image says?
Then giving them the IP won't be a problem, will it, as they know nothing about hacking at all. Unless they run a pre-made executable or something, in which case you should have a firewall and stuff to protect yourself against. Security through obscurity (sort of), as in not providing your IP, is not going to help you at all.Quote:
Second, I don't think there's many wannabe hackers who actually know PHP or a programming language. My whole point is that most of them are like \"I wanna hack and steal some's pass cause it makes me leet. Let me go download a script! Omgz yers.\"
Yep, that's your IP then - so it is correct (even if you're at work and going through a gateway yada yada yada). At least, I hope so, but I don't work where you do and I could be wrong.Quote:
Cool, but that is the address of my gateway, there are about 12,000 of us hiding behind it! I've also noticed that about 25 dreamviews regulars come through the same AOL IP.
Yeah it's the Danasoft one.
True, though in my instance (as confirmed by the GMs when I got my account back) it was an issue where someone got hold of my IP.Quote:
Originally posted by Kaniaz
Not always a keylogger. Brute forcing password techniques might of been used (although I don't know, I wasn't hacked). And also, you don't have to have the IP of the computer to \"lock on\" to it (at least, not in some cases) If you download a keylogger it can phone home to their IP, and not yours. So, wrong.
Yeah, but why take the risk? A firewall and anti-virus scanners are preventive measures, but the best policy is still to be sensible about your own computer's security. No matter, the truth is that giving out your IP randomly or to anyone who asks for it is not very smart if you have a static one because it does increase the chance of your privacy/security being compromised.Quote:
Originally posted by Kaniaz
Unless they run a pre-made executable or something, in which case you should have a firewall and stuff to protect yourself against. Security through obscurity (sort of), as in not providing your IP, is not going to help you at all.
Oh well, you can have your own opinion Kaniaz and I'm going to respect what you believe and do. I believe you are safe cause of your dial-up anyways. ;)
Um.Quote:
Yeah it's the Danasoft one.
True, though in my instance (as confirmed by the GMs when I got my account back) it was an issue where someone got hold of my IP. [/quote]Quote:
Not always a keylogger. Brute forcing password techniques might of been used (although I don't know, I wasn't hacked). And also, you don't have to have the IP of the computer to \"lock on\" to it (at least, not in some cases) If you download a keylogger it can phone home to their IP, and not yours. So, wrong.
That GM really needs to elaborate, or maybe he was just ill informed. Because there is no such thing as \"a issue where someone got old of your IP\". The issue is more along the lines of \"they gave you a keylogger\". The issue is not your damned IP, it is your security. I wouldn't exactly trust a GM to know much about computer security anyway, they specialize in saving helpless souls from map bugs or something.
Yeah, but why take the risk? A firewall and anti-virus scanners are preventive measures, but the best policy is still to be sensible about your own computer's security. No matter, the truth is that giving out your IP randomly or to anyone who asks for it is not very smart if you have a static one because it does increase the chance of your privacy/security being compromised. [/quote]Quote:
Unless they run a pre-made executable or something, in which case you should have a firewall and stuff to protect yourself against. Security through obscurity (sort of), as in not providing your IP, is not going to help you at all.
Not \"preventive measures\", they are the preventive measures. Hiding your IP when it can be seen anyway is not a preventive measure. In fact it's just being paranoid about nothing. Hiding your IP is also nigh on impossible as I have demonstrated, so why make a point of trying to hide it?!?! Sure, don't plaster it everywhere for the fun of it but what I'm trying to say is, use it casually if you want, don't make a point of hiding it because it is pointless and is kind of stupid, namely because you can't hide the damn thing. And then the gazillion other points I raised earlier.
You don't want to continue and so it ends here, ok. You can tell I go through posts systematically...Quote:
Oh well, you can have your own opinion Kaniaz and I'm going to respect what you believe and do. I believe you are safe cause of your dial-up anyways. ;)
All I know was that I was targeted as a specific person on that game. There was no way for them to pinpoint me without an IP.Quote:
Originally posted by Kaniaz
That GM really needs to elaborate, or maybe he was just ill informed. Because there is no such thing as \"a issue where someone got old of your IP\". The issue is more along the lines of \"they gave you a keylogger\". The issue is not your damned IP, it is your security. I wouldn't exactly trust a GM to know much about computer security anyway, they specialize in saving helpless souls from map bugs or something.
Now, about the firewall/anti-virus issue:
Airbags are preventive, it doesn't mean you should drive on the wrong side of the road. Likewise, firewalls are preventive. Using your IP 'casually' would be facilitating hackers, giving them an invitation, thus, not being sensible about computer security.Quote:
Originally posted by Kaniaz
Not \"preventive measures\", they are the preventive measures.
So do I. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Kaniaz
You don't want to continue and so it ends here, ok. You can tell I go through posts systematically...
EDIT: Okay we really should end this. :P
the point is, you'd better just make sure all your flipping ports are stealth if you want to pretend to have security (which you already have by obscurity, since you're just a simple home use which no hacker would want to spent any effort on...) because your IP isnt any secret code that instantly gives access to your damned computer ...
OK, if there was someone out there who desperately needed to hack you, and that person just happened to come across your post where you posted your IP, you might've saved them like, a minute of their time...
Alright alright you guys are right. Trying to hide you IP is unnecessary. Let's not argue anymore, my bad this got blown up so much. :mrgreen: