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      Is this un-healthy?

      Currently i go to sleep at 5:00am and wake up at 2:00pm - 3:00pm. Is this un-healthy?

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      Well, you're getting 9-10 hours of sleep. I guess the question is, does that schedule have any negative effects on you? If not, then I don't see why it wouldn't be unhealthy.

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      No it's not because your getting more than 8 hours of sleep.

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      I'd say no, but it may be detrimental because you're going to sleep when it's light outside and waking up when it's dark. It's not what your body's internal clock is naturally set to do.
      We all live in a kind of continuous dream. When we wake, it is because something,
      some event, some pinprick even, disturbs the edges of what we have taken as reality.

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      I am a day sleeper as well...When you sleep during the day, you need more sleep than night sleeper...like 2-3.
      I try to get atleast 9 hours of sleep but if I can get 12, it's a most!

      It's been 10 years now that I sleep during the day...I am not dead yet

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      There was a period in my life when I became nocturnal too. I think the main thing you need to remember is to get out and get some sunlight every once in awhile. Sleeping during the day and only seeing the moon will start to make you feel like a vampire and the pasty white skin doesn't help. You should probably take melatonin, since you are interrupting your body's natural clock. I would suggest doing research to find out what sort of adverse effects might come from such a schedule...but I really doubt that you are going to suffer any negative long term effects.

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      Well you see, my sister is paranoid and she gets really scared and can't sleep until it is light out. She gets even more scared if she is the last person up so that is why I'm up till daylight even though i can barley sleep when it's light out xD.

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      Um, do you have parents? Do they know this is going on? How old is she?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Aquanina View Post
      Um, do you have parents? Do they know this is going on? How old is she?
      Shes 15 almost 16. She thinks it's from the variety of illegal drugs she has taken (not repeatably just one time use). Once this started happen she stopped taking illegal substances entirely (she wasn't addicted). My mom is taking her to a therapist and other help as-well. The doctor doesn't think it is a major issue and may be a small paranoia disorder activated by drugs.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Vendetta View Post
      Well you see, my sister is paranoid and she gets really scared and can't sleep until it is light out. She gets even more scared if she is the last person up so that is why I'm up till daylight even though i can barley sleep when it's light out xD.
      You should tell her that you find it difficult to sleep when it's light outside and suggest she seek help. Changing your sleeping schedule for someone else, even your sister, isn't fair to you.
      We all live in a kind of continuous dream. When we wake, it is because something,
      some event, some pinprick even, disturbs the edges of what we have taken as reality.

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      One of my cousin's apparently developed a very serious anxiety disorder from drug use...the details I'm not sure about because she is much older than me and it's like a weird family secret or something. She won't even leave her house anymore. So yeah, make sure your sister gets the proper treatment she needs. The weird sleep schedule could have an effect on your health, especially if your sis is causing you stress, your immune system will be weaker. Has it been a problem for you thus far?

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      It's not like when i talk to her she is all paranoid, like she is fun to be around and has a really outgoing personality but when she is alone in her dark room she feels that a man is looking through her window and is going to come and do some terrifying thing (me nor she even knows what it is). She thinks that when she is about to sleep "demons" want her to sleep so they can do "?". She isn't into satanism or anything, she goes to church regularly, but she is really affected by "dark forces" and i think drugs made her more paranoid. Currently it hasn't been a problem for me so far, i usually go to sleep 15 minutes before it is light out. But for a lucid technique i would need to wake up in 5 - 6 hours but i can't fall back to sleep when it is light outside.

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      Yeah when your sleep schedule is that messed up, your chance of getting lucid really diminishes.

      If she honestly thinks that demons want her to sleep or are coming after her for whatever reason...then yeah, she needs serious psychiatric help. That is not just mild anxiety or paranoia, but full blown delusions. Is your family really religious? What religion? also, what drugs did she take? and how much? do you know?

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      You have to make your room pitch black.

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      Inside i think she knows nothing is there but her mind can't stop thinking something there. My family inst extremely religious but we are Christians, were not the the discriminatory types who say YOUR GOING TO HELL IF BLAH BLAH BLAH. She used to smoke lots of weed (like .5 grams a day) but she stopped doing that 3 months ago shes taken the following drugs once i know for certain it is once because she tells me everything:
      Meth
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      She was slipped the Meth and had an out of body experience (she went someplace she never had been before and touched something) and when she was back to normal she went there again and everything was the same. When she had the out of body experience she was actually shacking on the ground. She hasnt done any drugs since then but has drank, she has had a psych evaluation thoroughly but the doctors came up with nothing serious.

      Last night my sleep was
      4:36 - 1:44
      I came out here and posted a few things then i went upstairs and napped till now (5:27PM) I knew i had two dreams but i remembered only black (usually i have a great dream recall) i think i may of had a lucid and forgot about it.

      EDIT: I found out how to make my room pitch black so i can sleep during the day, if i sty on the current schedule will i have a chance at more lucids that i can recall? Im going to try to start going to bed earlier (1:00am) as-well.
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      If you stick to your current sleeping schedule then you'll have regular chances of having a lucid dream.

      I took LSD once, and I can fully understand how a hallucination like that could cause such a high level of anxiety. If I was 15 when I experienced what I experienced I'd probably be a total recluse. Thankfully I was with someone I could trust, and we sort of debriefed each other at the end to make sure neither of us would lose our grasp.

      Kudos to your sister for being so open about it, and mega kudos for you for sticking by her. As sad as it is, not many people would be so supportive and understand what she's going through, which is understandable when drugs are involved.
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      I sleep in the day too these days the same exact time, but to be honest my sleep is great only If I wake up early like 12 pm or something I usually end up having head aches then.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Vendetta View Post
      when she is alone in her dark room she feels that a man is looking through her window and is going to come and do some terrifying thing (me nor she even knows what it is). She thinks that when she is about to sleep "demons" want her to sleep so they can do "?"
      have you talked about sleep paralysis with her, made her aware its a fairly normal thing? this sounds very familiar to me....

      have you shared lucid dreaming with her? perhaps the encouragement and even dream situations could help her deal with the issues.

      as far as your health, from what i have heard often younger people (up till college age 23ish) have a more nocturnal schedule which gradually shifts to a normal "adult" diurnal schedule over their lifetimes. the issues with nocturnal schedules, as mentioned, is the bodies need for darkness and light to regulate serotonin, vitamin D, and cortisol levels.

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