Espsika Going Polyphasic

Someone with some polyphasic experience (uberman) commenting here...

First of all, espika - you're either going to do it or you're not. I see way too many polyphasic threads where people do it for a few days and give up. A week or a month later they try again and give up. Rinse and repeat endlessly for months or years on end. If you're not going to make it past the first few days - you're not going to make it to the end of adaption. The first few days are fucking heaven compared to the second week. What I am trying to say here is that you need to gather up the conviction to carry your resolution out to the end, or else you will never get there. Basically: Do or do not. There is no try.

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Originally Posted by espsika

Hello friends, i have formed the habit of starting all over again whenever i make mistake of over sleeping.
I always make mistake at day-two (2nd day). I feel dull, exhausted, not motivated, and little or no reasoning. The thoughts that are always in my mind are thoughts like; go and lie down, sit down, lean against the wall. I reject these thoughts most times but i always yielded to the urge of closing my eyes, and before i know whats happening i had slept for 40min, an hour, or 3hrs. 3hrs is the most common.
Yesterday, the 13th of Oct. Being yet-to-be successful 2nd day. I felt serious sickness (feverish condition) but refused yielding to it until 22:08hrs (not sure of the minutes, but i'm sure of the hour) and i subconsciously slept off lying down, only to wake up at 00:57(14th Oct.) feeling alright, but i was very sad to have slept off and i slept on, and finally woke up at 03:59 (14th Oct.)and decided to stay awake for 24hrs for naptation/exerptation.
As i said before, situations and events contribute to my failure and i cannot wait for a perfect condition, i have to create it myself.

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The first few days of my adaption, sleep deprivation was causing me to get overwhelmingly motion sick that I couldn't keep food down. It passes, but it helps to eat smaller quantities of food, more often.

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Originally Posted by espsika

I started practicing naptation without staying awake for 24/36hrs.
I found out that the third nap always leaves me unconscious and this has happened the three times i have practiced this. I regain consciousness after some hours or minutes has passed. For instance, i regained consciousness after 2hrs of sleep, the first day, without having the memory of how i laid my body on the floor.
Second day was after 1Hour 20minutes. And the third day being today was after 44minutes which left me extremely tired and unmotivated. All i could do was to wake up from the floor and Sit. I sat down for a minute and went back to sleep on the floor.
The only thing i noticed here is that the length of the unconscious sleep is reducing, but leaves me exhausted and unmotivated that i'm tempted to give up.
I have noticed so many things that is making my adaptation difficult:
1) Unsteady situation.
2) No electricity to control melatonin secretion.
3) No electrical appliances to keep me entertained and busy.
4) My alarm system is very poor (nokia C5-00). And
5) no human-alarm-system to help me, i'm alone on this.

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What are you trying to achieve? About a month ago, I was happily an Everyman sleeper, until my nap times started shifting around on their own because I wasn't keeping them in check. Suddenly, I was sleeping no more than two/three hours twice a day, all during different times of the day. Even though this schedule had come about naturally to me, the lack of a sleep schedule (ie: definitive times to sleep/wake) sent my body into chaos. I can't speak for everyone, but I have definitely felt the need for a strict sleeping schedule, especially when you're a polyphasic sleeper. When I was doing uberman, my biological clock knew exactly (down to the minute) when those naps where coming. I would be awake and alert at one instant, and then, about 5 minutes before my scheduled nap, I would hit a brick wall. Having a strict napping schedule will greatly aid your body in falling asleep during the right times, and help prevent from being tired all day.

Lastly, you seem to have a lot of other issues that are preventing you from adapting to a polyphasic schedule. You need to fix these (or find alternative solutions) before you can continue, or else they will serve as a crutch. Anything sounds like a good excuse for giving up when you haven't slept for a week.

Thank you very much Queen Zukin for your comments and advise, i appreciate it. my efforts of adapting to a polyphasic sleeping schedule continued today.
i will keep on updating you guys. thanks for reading.

i woke up at 4pm after nap on Wednesday 5th of Nov. then i stayed awake till 4:30am Thursday 6th of Nov. i slept for 2hrs, woke up at 6:30am.
my sleeping schedule is as follows
napping every three hours for three days, starting from 1pm today.

i woke up at 4pm after nap on Wednesday 5th of Nov. then i stayed awake till 4:30am Thursday 6th of Nov. i slept for 2hrs, woke up at 6:30am.
my sleeping schedule is as follows
napping every three hours for three days, starting from 1pm today.

Exaptation/Naptation:
13:00 to 13:20
16:00 to 16:20
19:00 to 19:20
22:00 to 22:20
01:00 to 01:20
04:00 to 04:20
07:00 to 07:20
10:00 to 10:20
for three days, that's from today being Thursday 6th to Saturday 8th

So far so good. Nap at 04:00 left me feeling sleepy. when the alarm went off i had no memory of how i slept off. but after waking up i remembered. sleepiness can be tricky.

Hi epsika! You've been trying poly sleep for years, right?

I've done it also, without great results, except ruin social relationships and get myself into deleterious stakhanovite habits.
So, maybe your situation is completly different, and I'm of course not trying to give you an order, I just want to advice you that maybe (I underline it again, maybe, just in case you're similiar to me) the best thing to do is simply stop for a bit and ask yourself what are the reasons because you are doing this. It could take a long time to discover your true intentions, since it's easy to lie to ourselves, believe me ;)

There will still be time to try poly sleep in the future, in a healthier way.

Thank you Synergeon. i have many reasons, but the main one is CONFIDENCE. i lost my confidence, i need to get it back.
i have been battling to stay awake since 20:00. naps are becoming deeper and short. let see how the rest remaining naps turns out to be. thanks for reading.

I skipped nap at 22:00 cos I was very busy and I slept before 01:00(the next day) and when laid down, I could hear myself saying to myself "you are lying down, you are not suppursed to be lying down on a mattress" I was seat-sleeping all this while. I noticed my alarm go off once, and I saw myself waking up at 08:00. I slept for over 6hers. And I was busy again throughout the day. Am starting all over again.

I think poly sleep is not the only way to find your confidence again.
You could try to go to a therapist, as I'm doing.

Ok Synergeon, i will consider seeing a therapist after i must have given up on Poly Sleep.
thank you once again. i appreciate your comments, thanks

i am back again with a new poly sleep plan. i will start Uberman sleeping schedule at 13:00.
this is an experiment and am giving it three titles.
1. the Nine Bold Steps
2. the Heavens and
3. the Resurrection
the reason for the first title being that, if i should follow the sleeping schedule religiously and am not seeing results, till the 9th day, i will quite.
for the second title, if i succeed, i should be able to communicate with heaven-lies.
for the last title, if i succeed i should be able to deprogram and reprogram my mind via LD toward becoming a better person.
Nap time:
13:00 to 13:20
17:00 to 17:20
21:00 to 21:20
01:00 to 01:20
05:00 to 05:20
09:00 to 09:20

On the 12th, the second day. After napping at 01:00, i was weak and idle and laid down on my bed and slept off not knowing what time it was. So i decided to come up with something to keep me busy.
first off, i decided to adapt to this sleeping schedule, no matter the outcome.
i divided the 3 hours 40 minutes awake of Uberman into four parts
1. One hour for the recitation of full rosary
2. The second 1 hour for the motivation self using the bible
3. the third 1 hour for prayers and lastly. The 40 remaining minutes is for thought vibration "where focus goes energy follows"
then again i found myself sleeping off while seating down on two different occasions, before and after 01:00 nap (on the 13th) and i spoiled my day by over sleeping at 13:00 to 14:50 because i broke the rule of seat-sleeping (i slept lying down instead of seating down). i am skipping other naps to continue from 01:00.

At 01:00, i slept for 50 minutes instead of 20. i slept off several times while seating.
At 05:00, i slept for 1hr 30 minutes. but other naps were OK, and short. fourth day is gone without over sleeping.
lets see how tomorrow goes, the fifth day.

On the 5th day, after 21:00 nap i failed to follow my plan. i was watching seasonal movie instead. i slept severally before 01:00 while watching the movie. when i napped at 01:00 i founded difficult differentiating snooze button from stop button. my motivation gone i couldn't think of anything that would confront the strong desire for sleep, so i slept off and found myself waking up at 03:37. i gave up and continued sleeping. after waking up at 08:00, my other naps were OK but that at 01:00 was OK too, but i had a rethink after the nap. as i was praying i had inspiration and the conviction not to continue but to focus the energy am focusing on Poly Sleep on something else, that being meditation. so am giving up for now... And maybe i should open another thread to post my meditation experience?

Good luck with this! It seems pretty rigorous and grueling on the body, but if you are determined to get results then keep at it my man!

Hello friends;
Espsika is back to polyphasing again not as a student but as a working class citizen of Nigeria(Biafra). i now have enough money to buy food that will help my adaptation. i went for Lab/medical test and the result said i have malaria and typhoid which i have started treating.
my polyphasing kick starts next week, dont realy know the exact day because of the nature of my work/job. And i know my Job is going to be a real obstacle toward my adaptation; i work 10 hours in a day 4 days a week, 6 hours in a day 2 days a week, and a day off.
i am trying EveryMan Sleep with 3.5 hours core and three naps that will be pushed around as a result of my work/job.
my EveryManSleep Schedule
2-5:30 core
9:30 nap (this will not be possible when i am on morning shift)
13:00 nap (this will also not be possible when i am on morning shift)
22:30 nap
Friends, i need your advise and thank you as you do just that.

Hello Friends
i am starting the Everyman today. i was fully awake by 7am to stay awake for 36 hours to start naptation/exaptation by 7pm (wednesday). failing this time means giving up to try again when i have my anual leave.
thanks for reading

15 hours in counting. i just returned from work ate some fruits and all am getting after this is the feeling of lying down sleep, but i cant do that i have to stay awake for 36 hours...

i failed. i went to bed at 2AM, the 19th hour and woke up at 4Am. i felt very cold and the desire to sleep on was stronger tha the desire to stay awake, so i slept off. But from now i still have the opportunity of staying awake for 24 hour. i woke up at 7:30, tomorrow is my off which means there is still room for naptation after staying awake for 24 hour. but if i fail to stay awake for 24 hour, i will give up...

^^ You know, even with Everyman, you are not required to stay awake for 36 or 24 hours. That, I believe is simply a method for diving in quickly. Polyphasic sleep is about splitting up your "night's" sleep among several shorter naps throughout the day, and nothing more. Maybe you can move right to a napping schedule and set aside torturing yourself before you even start the program.

For what its worth, I've been practicing a form of polyphasic sleep for years, and did it without staying up for 36 hours... the adjustment period might take a day or so longer, but it works just fine.

In any case, I hope you don't totally abandon your effort if you can't stay up again. Sleep deprivation really isn't that important to a successful polyphasic sleep schedule, and, given that polyphasic sleep can be helpful to LD'ing, it would be a shame to step away from it because your body wasn't interested in staying up for 36 hours.

Good luck!

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Originally Posted by Sageous

^^ You know, even with Everyman, you are not required to stay awake for 36 or 24 hours. That, I believe is simply a method for diving in quickly. Polyphasic sleep is about splitting up your "night's" sleep among several shorter naps throughout the day, and nothing more. Maybe you can move right to a napping schedule and set aside torturing yourself before you even start the program.

For what its worth, I've been practicing a form of polyphasic sleep for years, and did it without staying up for 36 hours... the adjustment period might take a day or so longer, but it works just fine.

In any case, I hope you don't totally abandon your effort if you can't stay up again. Sleep deprivation really isn't that important to a successful polyphasic sleep schedule, and, given that polyphasic sleep can be helpful to LD'ing, it would be a shame to step away from it because your body wasn't interested in staying up for 36 hours.

Good luck!

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I want to teach my body how to nap before going into everyman. thank you Sag.

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Originally Posted by Sageous

^^ You know, even with Everyman, you are not required to stay awake for 36 or 24 hours. That, I believe is simply a method for diving in quickly. Polyphasic sleep is about splitting up your "night's" sleep among several shorter naps throughout the day, and nothing more. Maybe you can move right to a napping schedule and set aside torturing yourself before you even start the program.

For what its worth, I've been practicing a form of polyphasic sleep for years, and did it without staying up for 36 hours... the adjustment period might take a day or so longer, but it works just fine.

In any case, I hope you don't totally abandon your effort if you can't stay up again. Sleep deprivation really isn't that important to a successful polyphasic sleep schedule, and, given that polyphasic sleep can be helpful to LD'ing, it would be a shame to step away from it because your body wasn't interested in staying up for 36 hours.

Good luck!

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I want to teach my body how to nap before going into everyman. thank you Sag.

^^ Most bodies are already pretty good at napping.

Oh, well, just offering an option; okay to ignore.

Good luck!

Thank you Sag. i didnt succeed in staying up for 24 hours. and i am taking your advice by going directly into Everyman, i will update after a week cos i dont want to fill this thread with junck.
thanks

Hello Friends! i am back again to give polyphasic sleep a final try.
my Annual Leave starts on monday, the 4th of July to end on the 18th. so i have 2 weeks and a day to adapt or forever give up.
this is how i am gonna do it; i will stay awake for 24 hour starting from tommorow. i will wake up by 4:30am (sunday) and start naptation/exaptation at 8:00am (monday). i will do this for 4 days and then switch to uberman for another 4 days and then i will be needing your advice on how to switch to everyman, i.e is if get to this stage successfully.
thank you