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      Less drugs more dreams

      I have stopped taking Xanax due to my Dr's encouragement. I am now, dreaming a lot more and not sleeping well. I know that this is part of the quitting process but the dreams are crazy. Is there a way to control my dreams?

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      Yes. I think through intergrating. Making creative art such as writing or drawing in the most intergrative way what you think the dream represents and how it connects to self.

      This is the best advice I can give you at this time.

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      Get better at lucid dreaming? Not to sound like an ass, but that's just about one of the only ways I know of controlling your dreams that is possible. Perhaps you should ween yourself off of xanax by taking valium instead? It isn't as potent and is far easier to get off of, rather than a sudden change your brain as a slower, subtler change. You could try taking drugs that keep you from remembering your dreams as well if the dreams themselves seem to be a big issue for you. It sounds like, to me, that you are getting lighter sleep. As a result you are more aware during the dreaming stages.

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      Keep in mind what you want to dream about as much as possible during the day, especially as you're falling asleep. Try to stay positive too. Emotions will affect your dreams as well.
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      It's just not about control. The need for control is what makes the dreams crazy. I theorize if you just give in that the dreams will calm and allow spontaneous lucidity to arise. I don't know what else to say here
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      Thank you for all your replies.
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      Would coffee and tea count as "drugs" in this case?
      Because I drink that literally everyday.

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      Caffeine is not considered a drug. But if you drink a lot of it, it can keep you up at night.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Cancerous View Post
      Caffeine is not considered a drug. But if you drink a lot of it, it can keep you up at night.
      Caffeine is absolutely considered a drug, as that's exactly what it is.
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      Quote Originally Posted by mooseantlers View Post
      Caffeine is absolutely considered a drug, as that's exactly what it is.
      Yeah, although most people don't really consider it a drug, since it's legal and fairly harmless; I think you would have to drink like 60 cups of coffee before it's starting to become dangerous, and not even I reach those quantities in one single day.
      My record so far is 6 cups, I went pretty crazy that time just because I could have as many free refills as I wanted at the tea-shop (is that what it is called in English, by the way? you know, those places where you can order coffee, tea etc and have some confectionery with it? or is this "fika" activity a Swedish thing? Oh well).

      Anyway, I think caffeine could have a slightly positive effect on lucid dreaming for some people, since it might make you more "alert".
      I have even had occasions when my alarm clock has started ringning and I have heard it in my dreams, and tried to turn off a dream alarm clock in vain (the irony in this is just wonderful, by the way), so coffee could have some similar effect on some people.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Yuusha View Post
      Yeah, although most people don't really consider it a drug, since it's legal and fairly harmless; I think you would have to drink like 60 cups of coffee before it's starting to become dangerous, and not even I reach those quantities in one single day.
      Absolutely not true; even a cup a day can sorta cause problems in the very long term, 5-6 cups a day and you start to risk problems like loss of sleep at night, and even things as serious as heart issues, which excess caffeine can cause, especially so in those with pre existing heart problems. Excess caffeine can also cause digestion issues, and on top of that, erectile dysfunction in men at ages way earlier than normal (30). Keep in mind caffeine was almost made illegal at the same time as cocaine for the same reasons, it just simply made it and remained legal because it's even found in small amounts in everyday things like chocolate.
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      A lot of people don't consider alcohol or marijuana drugs either. If a substance is not considered a nutrient, and especially if it has a psychotropic effect, it is a drug. Caffeinism is one of the most hidden/overlooked afflictions in society because of this skewed outlook on what should be considered a drug based on arbitrary criteria. Something doesn't have to be a hard drug to be considered a drug. They wouldn't be considered hard drugs if seemingly more harmless drugs weren't still drugs. Before all these giant ad campaigns came out about the dangers of smoking tobacco, it was viewed in exactly the same light as caffeine is now.
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