Question on Everyman schedule

So...

I've been doing a bit of "research" (by that, I mean google) on the everyman sleep schedule. From what I've read, it means:

1 x 3hr core sleep
3 x 20min naps

From my understanding, the best time for LDs is after a morning nap. So, to wake up earlier than normal, stay awake for over an hour, and then sleep for another 90 minutes, LDing in the REM period therein.

Using the Everyman schedule, how does one count that in? Would I have only a 20 minute nap for the LDs, or include a 90 minute sleep period? I've got a schedule something as follows (yet to be tested):

00:45 - 3:45 core sleep
90 min awake time
5:15 - 6:45 LD sleep time

and then another 3 x 20min naps throughout the rest of the day, not evenly spread (job constricting and all). I've included a 90 minute "nap" in addition to the core sleep and 3 naps.

Is this possible, is this going to be effective? Currently I sleep pretty solidly from around 11/12pm - 6:45am when I get up for work, so around 7-8hrs a day.

You don't need to include a 90 minute 'LD-nap' since on Everyman, you'll get used to dreaming in your normal 20 minute naps (not in all of them, but on everage at least once a day).
I have very good experiences with lucid dreaming in naps. Adapting to Everyman makes you tired, which is a perfect condition to learn WILDing :)

My question is: what would be your reasons for living on an Everyman schedule?

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Originally Posted by Sara

You don't need to include a 90 minute 'LD-nap' since on Everyman, you'll get used to dreaming in your normal 20 minute naps (not in all of them, but on everage at least once a day).
I have very good experiences with lucid dreaming in naps. Adapting to Everyman makes you tired, which is a perfect condition to learn WILDing :)

My question is: what would be your reasons for living on an Everyman schedule?

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For people who need more time in their life to complete things or just to do things they want. It just gives you a felling that you have a lot of time on your hands and reduces stress. My reason lol

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Originally Posted by Sara

Adapting to Everyman makes you tired, which is a perfect condition to learn WILDing :)

My question is: what would be your reasons for living on an Everyman schedule?

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Precisely that - WILDing! :D
And to get more success with LDs. I'd also like a little more time to do some me stuff - meditating, yoga, writing. Also, just because I'd like to try!

although it looks like a good idea, im not sure i could adapt to something like that.

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Originally Posted by Fessmo

although it looks like a good idea, im not sure i could adapt to something like that.

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It's not been easy...I've tried to start 3 times now, each time I've gone for a couple of days, then woken up at my normal waking time having slept right through all my alarms.


I'm moving house in two weeks, so I'm finding it a bit difficult to get my naps in coz I'm so busy - so I'm postponing everything till I'm in and settled.

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Originally Posted by Fessmo

although it looks like a good idea, im not sure i could adapt to something like that.

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If you really can't force yourself to stick strictly to the schedule... as in not over sleep at all - you might as well not try this at all. I had a friend try this over the break, and he would get about 2 days fine, and oversleep on another. Things would come up and mess up the schedule, and he'd still try to go right back into it. Overall he said he was miserable, tired, and just felt "off" the entire time. Pretty much if you cannot keep on schedule for whatever reason - stay away from the polyphasic sleep schedule.

I was interested in polyphasic sleep, but this definitely not something I could adapt to given my circumstances. Biphasic sleep on the other hand is a real possibility for me. I could sleep 5-6 hours over night, and then a 45min-hour nap in the afternoon. It was either nap or drink a coffee to keep me awake. I actually found myself doing this quite frequently during the semester. It worked out great for me.

I discoverd this mild version of Ubermans schedule a couple days ago, and i'm giving it a try at the moment.

I really don't like the adaption phase, most people fail of this, or so i've read... This seems to me because of two things:
1) the sleep deprivation is really nasty
2) you build up a sleep debt,.. when you finally get the rhythm after a week or so,.. you'll have a enormous tendency to oversleep (to get rid of your sleep debt).

So i thought about it and came with the following:
What i want i to gradually switch to Everyman, without (much) sleep deprivation and without a sleep debt!

To do this you must know the following: People have a natural circadian rythm of a little more than 24 hours. Each day your biological clock is rewinded a bit under the influence of light. Because of this internal tendency to make longer days, it's easier to go to bed late and sleep longer, than go to bed early and wake up to soon.

So it's easy to postpone your bedtime. My plan is to sleep between 4am and 7am, and take three equially spaced naps.
I've started napping, so my body's is being adjusted to rest at those times. If i need sleep (sleep debt), then i will automatically be tired and sleep at those nap times.
I've also set my alarm clock to wake me up at 7am, each day.

The only thing i'm going to change is my core-nap bedtime. I have two ideas on this:

1) Try to sleep at 4am, but if you're sleep deprived and tired, go to sleep early. So the first day you get up at 7am, you may be tired and go to sleep at 1am. Next day you go to bed at 4 am, but then you only sleep three hours so you go to bed at 1am. This way you slowly adapt, and you are never severly sleep deprived.

A better idea may be:
2) go to sleep at normal monophasic bedtime. Only postpone this bedtime, because this is the most easiest to do. But do it slowly, because you are also adjusting to getting up at 7am!

I'm currently doing the first, but i might decide to switch to the second approach if i go to bed early tomorrow.

I hope my approach leads to a nice gradual adoption to Everman. I think this way you can safely see how little sleep your body needs. (instead of forcing only 4 hours right away).