How Fast Do We Need

This is from memory. so these are not facts. Please correct my errors. :oops:

I was reading recently that the standard cable modem will be faster than a speeding bullet

Something in regards to being able to use silicone to admit laserbeam. Using light in am manner of speaking.
Silicone lase I think it ids called.

I don't know the details. What did stick in my head was..
A standard cable modem at it's highest rate is currently 1 meg per sec.
With this silicone lase it will be TEN THOUSAND time that speed!

I'm sorry
I didn't understand any of that.......

Well with bigger and better programs entering the market, and bigger and better technology, that also means bigger downloads. As technology and software improve, and files become larger for downloading, I don't think people want to wait all that long for their download.

Even when the files arent major size, people would rather have a file in 5 minutes rather then 15. Esspecially if its a last minute emergency.

Nonetheless, things are going to get bigger faster, so the road might as well be paved now.

That said, if this new thing is going to be going 10megs per second, kick ass! :yumdumdoodledum:

Software as a service. 'Nuff said.

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Originally Posted by Ynot

I'm sorry
I didn't understand any of that.......[/b]

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I think they are using silicone as a conductor for electrons.

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Software as a service. 'Nuff said.[/b]

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How do think this will or could effect AI?

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Originally Posted by Howetzer

I was reading recently that the standard cable modem will be faster than a speeding bullet
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So...launching a modem out of a cannon then? That sounds useful :|

I have, and frequently use, 100 MBit full duplex. Wouldn't mind more, but it's enough for now I suppose.

(An optical connection should be able to do a lot more than 10 MB/s btw)

I'm sorry. I like keeping my modem right here moving at 0 kph. Easier to keep track of.

you could try shooting it
if you hit it, then the modem's slower than the bullet

Can't argue with that logic.

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Originally Posted by Howetzer

This is from memory. so these are not facts. Please correct my errors. :oops:

I was reading recently that the standard cable modem will be faster than a speeding bullet

Something in regards to being able to use silicone to admit laserbeam. Using light in am manner of speaking.
Silicone lase I think it ids called.

I don't know the details. What did stick in my head was..
A standard cable modem at it's highest rate is currently 1 meg per sec.
With this silicone lase it will be TEN time that speed!
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And that would be a standard cable modem?

Not for a while, I would think.

Well, I don't think we need that yet. I mean, Kaniaz'd be happy with even a tenth of that speed. AMIRITE?

Yes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adsl#ADSL_standards

please note, speeds quoted in mega-bits per sec

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Originally Posted by Spectre

And that would be a standard cable modem?

Not for a while, I would think.[/b]

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At some point. Since Standards will continue to rise.
Like most software, it seems outdateed as soon as you get it. But how soon. I have no idea.
It will likely be very expensive, then become outdated and then become standard. Then whole process starts over. :?

Hmmm 10 meg/second? Actually that's not that impressive. Three years ago my neighborhood put in fiberoptics which averages around 6-7 megs/second for the houses around me. Only a 3 meg average increase over 3 years?

Technology will keep improving, although we are approaching limits in certain areas unless we drastically change the way we design our processors and memory.

scraping away all the marketing blather ("meg / sec" is not megabytes....)
a lot of it has to do with the contention ratio (ie. how many people are sharing your connection)

you may have bought "2 meg broadband", but all that means is that the cable carries 2 mbps

you will probably be sharing that speed with 10 other households in your road

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Originally Posted by Ynot

scraping away all the marketing blather ("meg / sec" is not megabytes....)
a lot of it has to do with the contention ratio (ie. how many people are sharing your connection)

you may have bought "2 meg broadband", but all that means is that the cable carries 2 mbps

you will probably be sharing that speed with 10 other households in your road
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Unless it says so in the fineprint (and for a low speed like that, doesn't sound likely) it actually means you can get 2 Mbps to (or rather from) the nearest station, and from there there's a x Mbps connection for y users.
2 Mbps sounds like it's a dsl-variant, if so then you definately have your own cable to the closest station, since it's the pots-cable.

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Originally Posted by Squall

Hmmm 10 meg/second? Actually that's not that impressive. Three years ago my neighborhood put in fiberoptics which averages around 6-7 megs/second for the houses around me. Only a 3 meg average increase over 3 years?

Technology will keep improving, although we are approaching limits in certain areas unless we drastically change the way we design our processors and memory.
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It is ten gigabytes per second. By persuading silicon to admit laser beams computers and other devices will handle light as well as electrons.
It is a 10,000 -fold improvement over the standard limit of one meg per second.
So huge digital files or high resolution videos would be transferred at a rate of 10 gigabits a second.

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Originally Posted by Howetzer

It is ten gigabytes per second. By persuading silicon to admit laser beams computers and other devices will handle light as well as electrons.
It is a 10,000 -fold improvement over the standard limit of one meg per second.
So huge digital files or high resolution videos would be transferred at a rate of 10 gigabits a second.
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That means I would be able to download huge amounts of music UBER-fast.

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Originally Posted by ataraxis

That means I would be able to download huge amounts of music UBER-fast.[/b]

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Even though I don't know what UBER-fast means, I am guessing yaaa. :wink:

That is quite a leap isn't it?

The problem with most high demand networks is not speed
but latency

The faster you go, the more collisions you'll have

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Originally Posted by Howetzer

It is ten gigabytes per second. By persuading silicon to admit laser beams computers and other devices will handle light as well as electrons.
It is a 10,000 -fold improvement over the standard limit of one meg per second.
So huge digital files or high resolution videos would be transferred at a rate of 10 gigabits a second.
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Oh. That's definitely fast then. Though I don't think anyone will need a connection that fast, it far surpasses even the speed required to stream HD videos.

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Originally Posted by Squall

Oh. That's definitely fast then. Though I don't think anyone will need a connection that fast, it far surpasses even the speed required to stream HD videos.[/b]

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You can be certain that the military is quite interested. :roll:

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Originally Posted by Howetzer

It is ten gigabytes per second. By persuading silicon to admit laser beams computers and other devices will handle light as well as electrons.
It is a 10,000 -fold improvement over the standard limit of one meg per second.
So huge digital files or high resolution videos would be transferred at a rate of 10 gigabits a second.
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10GB/s? Holy fast speed Batman o_ô. If the speed keeps increasing exponentially like that, in a couple of tens of years we'll be able to download teh interwebs!! Ok maybe not.

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Originally Posted by Howetzer

That means I would be able to download huge amounts of music UBER-fast.
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..Yes. That would allow you to download about 1500-2000 songs in a second or two. :D

100 Gbps over ethernet was achieved a little while ago

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Originally Posted by Ynot

100 Gbps over ethernet was achieved a little while ago[/b]

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I doubt this.
One Gig is 1000 or 1024 Megabytes, depending on who is measuring. Are you sure you don't mean Megs?

I am sure you know this and more than I. :wink:


Silicon Lase
Ethernet

The Nippon Telegraph and Telephone Corporation ran test with a result of a 14 Tbps transmission over a single 100-mile fiber optic line.

Doubt me ??
HA !!!!!!!!!! !!!!

http://gigaom.com/2006/11/14/100gbe/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_gigabit_Ethernet

Ph33R me,
for I will beat you

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100 Gbps over ethernet was achieved a little while ago[/b]

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Originally Posted by Howetzer

I doubt this.
One Gig is 1000 or 1024 Megabytes, depending on who is measuring. Are you sure you don't mean Megs?
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Bits and bytes are different people, bits and bytes are different. Gbps != GB/s.

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Originally Posted by Ynot

Doubt me ??
HA !!!!!!!!!! !!!!

http://gigaom.com/2006/11/14/100gbe/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_gigabit_Ethernet

Ph33R me,
for I will beat you[/b]

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If you noticed I linked to the same page that you have.
I just linked to the news release. So I am not saying they did not do so, but it seems that it was in a different manner. A more complex aptitude.
Using ten different gigabyte channels.

If you compare the two they seem rather different to me.
Where the silicone lase may be adapted for use in many applications, cell phones and other wireless devices.

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Originally Posted by Merlock

Bits and bytes are different people, bits and bytes are different. Gbps != GB/s.
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yep,
and the difference gets wider the higher you go

100 Gbps (Giga-bits per second)
is the same as
12 GBps (Giga-bytes per second)

yep,
and the difference gets wider the higher you go

100 Gbps (Giga-bits per second)
is the same as
12 GBps (Giga-bytes per second)

Ok. So as hard as I tried to stay out of (not knowing what the hell I am talking about stage) I have eventually been drug there.
Sooo. What is the differences? :bigteeth:

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Originally Posted by Howetzer

If you noticed I linked to the same page that you have.
I just linked to the news release. So I am not saying they did not do so, but it seems that it was in a different manner. A more complex aptitude.
Using ten different gigabyte channels.

If you compare the two they seem rather different to me.
Where the silicone lase may be adapted for use in many applications, cell phones and other wireless devices.[/b]

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difference between a bit & a byte ?

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Originally Posted by Ynot

difference between a bit & a byte ?[/b]

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No no no.
Concerning my last sentence.

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Originally Posted by Howetzer

No no no.
Concerning my last sentence.
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Is this what you mean

http://www.networkworld.com/news/200...ntelsilic.html

http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=103960

cause it's nothing to do with networking
but the movement of information inside a chip
(optical light pulses are faster than electrical pulses across copper)

this is more to do with processor & motherboard designs than anything else