everybody is better off with primitive ways of life and the animals are a good example of this and even god would agree with me on that one
just think of it
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everybody is better off with primitive ways of life and the animals are a good example of this and even god would agree with me on that one
just think of it
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I noticed that you used advanced technology to share you thoughts with us.......
how else am I gonna reach your poisoned minds? like sun tzu said "use the enemies tactics and technology against them for only they know how to defeat themselves"
Frankly, I disagree. Very much. Technology has made us incredibly knowledgeable and gave us a greater understanding. However, People are stupid. The human race in general, is stupid. Its the way the technology is being used. Its killing, its poluting our air, and destroying our planet. Technology is good, but its being wielded in the wrong hands.
The Art of War is a very random thing to be citing in a tech forum o_o I must agree with him somewhat, even if it is a rather indescriptive topicQuote:
Originally Posted by delta
guess that means not even Mr. Albert E was smart, cause he couldn't see the problems or just simply ignored them
You're right! What has technology ever done for us?
Oh...
Except refrigeration.
And doubling our lifespan.
And elimination of most diseases.
And efficient transportation.
And...
Well, nevermind.
well back in the good days technology wasn't needed, all those things were fine, lifespan was better than it is now, refrigeration came naturaly from the earth, diseases didn't exist, transportation wasn't needed, and everything was just perfect.
Are you kidding? I won't even get into the stupidity of the other statements, but this one takes the cake: "diseases didn't exist." Buddy, diseases don't come from technology. The things that cause diseases are living, organic beings. They are alive, and they move about the world. They are microscopic, but they are alive. They're called viruses and bacteria. There are billions in the air, and always have been. They have been around longer then the human race itself. Some things like polution have mutated the viruses maybe, but seriously... that is possibly one of the stupidest statements I have ever heard.
EDIT: On second thought, I will get into the stupidy of the others.
Yeah, if you live in Alaska maybe. Refrigeration is keeping things cold and fresh. A refrigerator, keeps the food concealed from the outside air and it keeps it cold. Both stopping bacteria from eating away at it and ruining the food. Without technology, if its the middle of the summer, you can't save meat for example. It'll go bad within a short time, then you'll get food poisoning.Quote:
refrigeration came naturaly from the earth[/b]
Ha. So your saying people had no where they needed to go? Transportation was, and always will be needed. Be it with your own two legs, a horse, or a car, it will always been needed. And don't even get started on cars polute. Yeah, they do now, but sooner or later they will go hybrid and eventually full electric. No more polution, no more damage. Nothing wrong then. No trasportation, then your isolated.Quote:
transportation wasn't needed[/b]
Do your research, no it wasnt. This also ties in with diseases. Now we have cures, back then they didn't. Back then, something which we can cure in 3 seconds now, could kill them.Quote:
lifespan was better than it is now[/b]
Excuse me. What days? Even cave men used technology. Fire, obsidian weapons, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by delta
Say what? Sorry to burst your bubble, but average lifespan was somewhere around forty years old up until the last millenia or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by delta
Actually the center of the earth is...well, a boiling lake of lava. Well, technically, the CENTER isn't liquid OR boiling, it's only solid material at a few thousand degrees.Quote:
Originally Posted by delta
...though, well, I suppose one could call the ice ages "natural refrigeration", but something tells me they weren't what I'd consider pleasant living conditions.
Well, except for the tiny fact that bacteria and viruses actually predate humankind by a few hundred million years.Quote:
Originally Posted by delta
Because nobody ever needed to trade goods back then, of course. I'm sure that things like salt, water, and fruit are just frivolous extravagances. Extravagances that our body just happens to need in order to survive...Quote:
Originally Posted by delta
Yup, peachy keen!Quote:
Originally Posted by delta
What's that? Feeling a little sick? Well, I'm sure technology's not what you need.
Tell ya' what! I'll go get a bucket of leeches instead!
One word
Alcohol
End of discussion
You lose
*edit*
er....
and coffee
*edit 2*
and Smarties
*edit 3*
Three Words....
Alcohol
Coffee
Smarties
And Monty Python.......Four words
check this out kids im debating with an authority
im not talking about the rest of the world im talking about my people in the americas or mainly north america, I don't care what other people wanted or needed, we didn't need all that fancy stuff because we were connected with the land around us, and when that happens there is no need for advanced technology, and I didn't say diseases came from technology
I got this stuff in my blood, I don't need science to prove anything
when I say lifespan, I mean quality, not quantity, so I mean everybody lived to be the maximum age whatever it was. unlike now, where you could get murdered in a second and not live to the maximum age
we in north america had it all, no need to go across sea to get anything, no need for vacations and that is why we lived the way we did, unlike most races who never had anything and had to go and get the things from other unsuspecting people.
It's true.
come to the EU
lot less killing
and you get better health care
I remain true to my land, but thanks for inviting
Well aren't you a badass? :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by delta
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Originally Posted by delta
Even so, even if you hadn't said that first magic word there, you can't expect us to know what your talking about if you hadn't clarrified. The entire board isn't your race.Quote:
everybody is better off with primitive ways of life and the animals are a good example of this and even god would agree with me on that one[/b]
Then what did diseases have anything to do with the topic?Quote:
and I didn't say diseases came from technology[/b]
Span means the length. However, I do agree with you here, to a point. People killing isn't because of technology. Its the way its being wielded and used.Quote:
when I say lifespan, I mean quality, not quantity, so I mean everybody lived to be the maximum age whatever it was. unlike now, where you could get murdered in a second and not live to the maximum age[/b]
hey authority, your doing what police do, and I suggest you stop because your gonna bring out the evil in me
if u don't want me to break the rules then don't try to make me break them
Im doing what police do? Im arguing with you, debating. Trying with a small shred of misplaced hope that it can be done maturely. If you can't handle people disagreeing with you, I suggest isolating yourself from everyone. White Padded rooms do nicely.
I'm talking about that comment you made about me
that's immature debating
This guy is actually the most ridiculous guy ive come across
I cosndier myslef somebody who shares smiliar views of a similar nature
but his are warped
I have stated before that I bleive technology and this consumerist society has robbed us off our animalistic instics that I would relate to higher states of conciousness
but how can you not see what good technology has done?
and also, Why is this in tech talk
why do you quote quotes referring to the art of war
and the comemtns regarding disease, are you stuoid?
and just to top it off your a racist
who thinks hes gangster over the internet
whose comeptley over creating topics
*RANT OVER*
Imran
Land is landQuote:
Originally Posted by delta
Man makes arbitrary divisions, and calls them countries
Mother nature doesn't care for arbitrary divisions
Your land was once a sea floor
and before that, spat out of a volcano
Land is Land
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Originally Posted by delta
Clearly your a stranger to sarcasm. Let me introduce you:
Delta, this is sarcasm. Sarcasm is from a wonderful and happy place of rainbows and bunny rabbits. A place where elves and leprocauns roam, riding atop unicorns.
Besides, even if it was an insult, what right do you have to question people insulting you? All I've seen you do is insult members of this board, and you yourself be racist. What right do you have that allows you to speak to people that way, and not others to you? You really need an attitude adjustment.
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Originally Posted by Ynot
this is my gospel
This is why i am opposed 2 patrioism
I live in Brtain, i orignate from india
my parents were born in Uganda
Howewe,ver, i am a Earthling
No country is MY country
the world is my country
Your veiws are veiws of bigotry cloaked in traiditon,
Imran
exactlyQuote:
Originally Posted by imran_p
Land ownership is pretty much the fundamental basis of capitalism
if you really want to get back to the traditional ways
you have to accept that you really don't own squat
you just happen to be standing on a particular piece of land
Whatever. I agreed with this guy when he first started talking, but then he kept talking.
This is the most screwiest guy I have ever seen on DV.
"Without technology things were just perfect"?
The world has never been perfect, moron.
thats what we were doing, we didn't own the land, we lived in it.
and Mr authority I know I was being bad, you don't have to debrief me on that, but I told many other authorities that I would stop that stuff, so thats why I told you not to tempt me and part of sarcasm is body language which is why I thought you were dissin me
most people dont understand, thats why they disagree, you see me, I understand white people which is why I talk about them, if i didn't then I wouldn't say anything about them
so basicaly they were the ones who taught me to dislike them
It is insesible to claim to own land
it was there before you
will be there after you are dead
EDIT:
Listen 2 me with an open mind
please forget all pre-convicend ideologies and notions you have ahd
and read
White people ahve done bad
hwite people ahve done good
the error in your thinking lies in your generalization, you dunerstand?
all human prejudice lies in generalization
My parents and all the asians in Uganda were exiled by Idi Amin, a black natiionalist. A man who acrually ordered the death of kids
My parents cousins were shot dead
Idi Amin was a negro
Should I now say that all negroes are vil?
NO!
I cannot, they hav ehad martin luther, nelson mandela. and in my eyes, Malcolm X
White people ahve had great thinkers
great scientists
mathmaeticians
humanitarians
freedom fighters
politicians
spiritual leaders
Same wit asians
you msut lose your racism
if you ever gonna progress as a person
=)
Imran
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Originally Posted by delta
Then you agree you can't be true to your landQuote:
Originally Posted by delta
as you own no land you can call "yours"
Oh, and btw,
you need no invite to come over here
you're free to move around as you please
We have some pretty dire places, devoid of any technology
I suggest Switzerland
again, misunderstanding, when I say I remain true to my land im not talking about ownership, I mean that I would rather live here than go elsewhere.
Imran, you guys have your own country, so don't fret, but what do we got??
answer: reserves with high suicide and poverty
listen 2 me
we ahve a common cause
the people reponsible for the destruction of the cuklture of the indenginous people of North AMerica are and were bastards
My problem with you is your open hatred for all white men
open ur mind
read what i wrote
and if you can rebutt me sensibly then I wil ladopt your point of veiw white men are evil
if you find that your thinking id inseisible
well there we are then =D
Imran
:offtopic:
Imran, honest and serious question, are you dyslexic?
Or do you just type, really, really fast and not care to re-check? :content:
Imran I cant understand you half the time, I can understand and tell you why you don't hate the blacks, it's because what happened is no longer happening, you know? but with us, it will continue until they decide to kill us one day or finally decide to leave us alone and go mess with some other race. I don't hate white people I simply dislike them, hate is too powerful of a word to describe me.
Racist.
do you dislike me?
if u wanna label me as a racist, then ill be one, but only toward you
if ur cool with me, im cool with you, regardless of differences
Racist?
Nah.
I'm thinking more along the lines of ignorant ass.
Oh, and a troll, too.
That's not what you've been saying this whole time.
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Originally Posted by delta
Besides, you can't ever be racist to just one person. The key word in Racist is Race. If your racist to one, your racist to all.
does hating the French count?Quote:
Originally Posted by ExoByte
you know what, this is going nowhere im not resonding anymore.
Spoken like a true loser.
Go on!
Get!
Maybe he's gone to go live in the woods. Far, far away from computers.
We can only hope.
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Originally Posted by ExoByte
Im afraid I must admit
Its just lazyness on my part
My english spelling and grammar are fine.
Actually I'm doing an A level in English,
I just type fast and hope everybody can understand me,
sorry lol
Imran
WHAT!?
:P
This thread was genius up until this postQuote:
Originally Posted by delta
Then it basically just trainwrecked
Yep.
Well actually I thought it was stupid since post one.
But that's just my opinion.
And no, I'm not racist! XD
What if your a racistagainstsomeracesistQuote:
Originally Posted by ExoByte
lol :biggrin:
I think that would create a black hole.
:lolxtreme:
"technology just makes shit worse"
sounds like you need a good plumber.
sorry couldnt resist :)
Hunter-gatherer societies are superior to post-agricultural societies in many ways (lack of war and famine, less environmental damage, much more free time, fewer human rights abuses, lack of animal exploitation, etc etc, every bad thing can be traced back to the development of agriculture.). If I had to choose, I would choose the hunter-gatherer, in theory. However I don't think there is any going back. And now that we know what we would be missing, life around the campfire would be pretty boring. But I agree that the technology that begain with the development of agriculture has caused a lot of damage.
Delta-9-THC, you are right that the life-span of the hunter-gatherer is comparable to that of modern humans. We are just now getting back what we lost with the advent of agriculture which lead to over-crowding and more infectious disease, poor nutrition and more chronic disease, war, crime, etc. which took their toll on longevity. And probably the lives of the aboriginals seemed longer because actually it takes a lot fewer hours to support yourself under those circumstances, so that meant a lot more spare time. But then again....what would you spend the time doing? (Well we could share our dreams in detail LOL they probably did a lot of that). If you didn't know about reading and stuff, it might not matter; but now that we do, it would get kind of boring.
I think I am starting to repeat myself. Anyway, interesting subject to think about.
I love when people do this. They just make me feel so much better about myself, you know?
No, I have no idea what you are talking about. When who does what?Quote:
Originally Posted by mindule
No we've made the world such a simpler way to live. I mean, come on! Its only 16 years of school that we need to go through to be able to live in this world as opposed to none! So much better :roll:
But i'd never want to go back to the stone age. *hugs computer*
it doesn't seem right debating anarcho-primitivism over the internet....
oh, but it feels so good.... :ohyahbaby:
Yeah, hows that for irony? :PQuote:
Originally Posted by ;369650
Ok I'll re-open but keep it going on track.
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Originally Posted by NeAvO
Thank you NeAvO. *Hands NeAvO his favorite whip*
look up the word irony, please.Quote:
Originally Posted by ExoByte
I think you're the one who didn't get it, Artelis. ;)
What Exobyte said made sense to me.
Hey.. Maybe I'm mixed up too, but from what I understand, using a high tech device to talk trash about technology does seem pretty ironic... at least the way I understand it.
*shrug*
learn to suck less, please. Look up the word, really. I'm not kidding on this one, folks.
No, I used the word correctly. He basically said its being debated wether technology sucks, on an advanced form of technology. That is a form of irony.
A bunch of idiots dancing on a plane to a song made famous by a band that died in a plane crash
Teacher's. People going to school, just so they can go back to school
Using advanced technology to trash talk advanced technology
Those are all ironic statements.
artelis is a comedianQuote:
Originally Posted by Artelis
Thank you for the example. I understand the word better now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Artelis
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Originally Posted by arby
ROFL!! I GET IT!! LOL!!
Seriously, Artelis, I'm not trying to dog on you or sound like a bitch. I promise. Maybe there's something I'm missing.. But I do believe the original statement made sense.
:? *worries*
Ok, I'm going to type very slowly to get my point across.
There are TWO types of irony.
1) Situational irony - An unexpected end to a given situation - a famous trumpet player being killed by being smashed in the face by a trumpet.
2) Written irony - SAME MEANING AS SARDONIC - saying one thing and meaning another - I REALLY love this thread. These people are oh so smart.
Saying technology is terrible on an Internet forum - Just plain stupid. NOT IRONIC! Get over it.
Saying one thing and meaning another isn't irony...
i·ro·ny1 /ˈaɪrəni, ˈaɪər-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ahy-ruh-nee, ahy-er-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -nies. 1. the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, “How nice!” when I said I had to work all weekend.
2. Literature. a. a technique of indicating, as through character or plot development, an intention or attitude opposite to that which is actually or ostensibly stated.
b. (esp. in contemporary writing) a manner of organizing a work so as to give full expression to contradictory or complementary impulses, attitudes, etc., esp. as a means of indicating detachment from a subject, theme, or emotion.
3. Socratic irony.
4. dramatic irony. (In a play when the audience knows something the characters dont)
5. an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.
6. the incongruity of this.
7. an objectively sardonic style of speech or writing.
8. an objectively or humorously sardonic utterance, disposition, quality, etc.
The bolded fits. Insulting advanced technology using advanced technology, fits definition #5.
then throw your computer away and turn the lights off. Dont use natural gas heaters or electric ones. Chop your wood with an ax that you made from stone. Build you house out of raw materials. Leave your house in hte middle of the night to use the bathroom. Don't teach your kids to read and throw away your books fQuote:
Originally Posted by delta
Forage through the tundra for food. Then you'll set us all a good example I guess.
Just think how much you depend on technology.
you are suggesting that you are worse than him by that statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by delta
We are born of earth and the "land" belongs to us all. It is our stewardship.Quote:
Originally Posted by delta
Um...you act like it. If you listen to yourself you'll see that your what you are complaining about.Quote:
Originally Posted by delta
Your acting like a raciest. who likes to use technology.Quote:
Originally Posted by delta
I think your people need help, in a good way. Maybe technology can help you.
What the fuck ever guys
Why are you even wasting your time on this
Why do dogs lick their workplace-acceptable-euphanism for testicals?
Does NOT fit. Take a grammar class and learn to comprehend. Then stop breathing and jump off a cliff. There is no outcome of events that fit this. The only outcome of events was a post on the Internet. I'm pretty sure that he was very much expecting the post to be made on the Internet as he clicked the add thread button. Seriously, do you even think before posting?Quote:
Originally Posted by ExoByte
I don't know, they like the taste?Quote:
Originally Posted by ExoByte
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Originally Posted by Artelis
It does fit. Its not HIS intent we're talking about. The situation is Advanced Technology being Insulted via the use of Advanced Technology. Its not him, its not his intent. The person is not the irony here, its the situation.
But you know what, this is going no where. Fuck it.
But seriously, this:
Anger much? Would've figured you to be above a such comment.Quote:
Then stop breathing and jump off a cliff[/b]
*Extremely nerdy voice*
Well.... well ACTUALLY!
So.. How do you guys feel about how 'technology just makes shit worse?'
House!?Quote:
Originally Posted by taltho
That's technological evil, you fool! ;)
I'm just adding my two bits.Quote:
Originally Posted by MSG
And I'm attempting to help the poor kid do something useful for himself and his people.
I really do believe he need help and I can't help myself but to try and hep. However poor or vain an attempt that might be.
Ehhh, this isn't really going anywhere.
*locked*