I'm going to PC World on Sunday but I don't really know what to get. What do you recommend I get?
I'm going to PC World on Sunday but I don't really know what to get. What do you recommend I get?
it really depends what you want to do with it....
I would shop online...
Yah (to Ynot's comment).
Shopping online is great but going to a store has its advantages. You can actually touch the computer.
I have vowed to get a mac first chance I get.
Games....Games....And Games.... :shock:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ynot
(And speed)
then get a multi-core system with heaps of ram and a high-end graphics card
Windows XP, games run faster on XP and it is unlikely that there will be any Vista-only games any time soon.
A high end Mac would be a good idea. At least 2GB of RAM and 2 cores, if you plan to not have to buy another computer in two years, 4GB of RAM and 4 cores.
Get Vista.
Prepares
:chuckle:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grod
DirectX comparison:
http://movies.custompc.co.uk/cpc/images/vista3d.gif
OpenGL comparison:
http://67.15.50.109/img/uploads/news...0_diagram2.jpg
Looks to me that for games Vista looses match-ups a lot more than it wins. You said you will use it for games, get XP.
Macs suck.
See Source: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse....gi?u=macs_cant
One of his best articles IMO.
Ahhh! I don't know what people are talking about. What's a core?
multi-core processors mean you have more than one processor (contained in a single physical chip)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-core_%28computing%29
Right, I'v got the computer. It's well good, I have to wait untill Christmas day though. :(
Quote:
- AMD Athlon 64 X2 Processor 4000+
- 2.2GHz, 1GHz HT, 1MB Cache
- Genuine Windows Vista (R) Home Premium
- 1024MB RAM Memory
- 250GB Hard Drive
Urm, my 3 year old PC is almost as fast, who said it is well good?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdeadevil
Also what's the graphics card in there? Pleaaase don't tell me you got an integrated graphics card, or you will be playing no games on there lolz
Yes well, captain Adam, I coudn't be bothered going all the way downstairs to get all the specifications. So if you plan on yelling at me......... *Runs downstairs in a panic*
Lol no I got a pretty good graphics card.
Don't be an ass, I'm happy. And you jump on me with all this shit like "Your new computers SHIT"
What graphics card did you get?
If you don't mind me asking, what did you pay for it? Did you get it from PC world?
Sure did. But it was like in a package so I don't really know what it was by itself.
Let me go have a look (expect editing of post)
you got owned XDQuote:
Originally Posted by Jdeadevil
And the other answers? I just found this which would have been AWESOME! In fact I think I might get it now!!!
For £700
Full Specification
* Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Q6600 Quad Core Processor(2.4GHz,8MB Cache,1066MHz)
* Genuine Windows Vista™ Home Premium Edition
* Digital / Analogue TV Tuner PCI Card
* New MESH Midi-TowerATX Case + 550W PSU
* PCI-Express Mainboard - SLI nForce 650i SLI(C55) - Intel Core 2 Duo/Quad-Core - ATX
* 4GB DDR2 667MHz Memory -( 4x 1GB )
* 500GB Serial ATA Hard Drive with 16MB Buffer
* LightScribe Super Format 20x Dual Layer DVD Writer +R/-R/RW/RAM
* 256MB nVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS - DVI, HDTV, TV-Out
* 19" Widescreen LCD TFT Display with internal speakers
* 5.1 High Definition onboard sound card - 6 Channel Cinema sound
* Logitech S220 - 2.1 Speakers with Subwoofer
* Logitech Cordless Keyboard & Cordless Optical Mouse
* Free Microsoft® Works® 8.5 + 60 Days Microsoft Office Trial
* Free Cyberlink Video Editing Suite - 7 titles (oem)
* 2x IEEE1394 Firewire (onboard)
* 1x Gigabit LAN (onboard)
* Multi-format Memory Card Reader (ATX)
* Free Upgrade to 1 Year On Site* - UK Mainland Only (Repairline Ltd Warranty)
SHIT THE FUCKING BED!!!! :shock::shock::shock:
I didn't say it was shit, read my post... I asked who said it was well good? I didn't say it was shit. It is a good PC - I have similar.... I wouldn't say mine was shit.... Although I have upgraded mine since I bought it.... Calm down - I am not trying to flame you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdeadevil
Oh now come on, I only had about 475 pounds to spend, yes, I have to pound symbol on my keyboard
I am.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam
You shoulda gona at least quad-core jd.
Stop it, I got what I got. Is that atleast fair?
How do you mean "fair"?
You've still misspelt "raise" in your sig.
For the cost you got a good one! Damn you JD!!! I am nto trying to piss you off!!
For £500 I don't think he could have?Quote:
Originally Posted by Carôusoul
ffs, this is the kid's xmas present
leave it alone
I am.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam
So what kind of performance are you expecting out of it?
I'm not talking about it anymore.
Edit - Richie it's a bit ironic of how you say everyone fails.
Point taken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ynot
Good, you got Vista.
It's PC world. Of course they gave him that crud =PQuote:
Originally Posted by Grod
Great, more insults on the things I like.
Vista is awesome! Well I love it - does everything I need it too, and looks purty :D
Oh yeah, and the monitor is awesome. The screen itself is made out of glass. :D
It's not flatscreen?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdeadevil
It's Wide Screen. And I think it is Flat Screen. Unless both can't be possible.
It depends on what ya like!!
To be honest, I like just a regular PC with Windows on it so I can update it however I please.
I am not a dell or a Mac fan AT ALL. It seems every Dell laptop I ever got broke down, and I am too dumb to figure out how to work Mac.
Do some research, look at the programs that come with it, and figure out what you want best!! :D
-patience
Well keep in mind that Macs are pretty shit, I don't know why they are but when I used them at school I just felt like asking why it's "good". Don't you just hate the one button mouse?
I realize now that the only reason they were classed as good is because they were new.
OS X is a little bit different from an Apple II running Logo & Turtle....Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdeadevil
I'm pretty sure the computers at his school aren't Apple II's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ynot
The two button apple mouse has been an option for years...
Did you see this?Quote:
Originally Posted by arby
Ynot
ffs, this is the kid's xmas present
leave it alone
Wrong anyway.
Didn't I read from one of you people that Vista is terrible for games? :eh: You may need to downgrade, JDea. It needs a loooooooooooot of RAM. It works really well for Adam because he has a pile of it. :)
Yeah, I'm running on 2GB here and I turned off AERO because it was lagging up pretty much any program with a few embedded windows. I don't even want to imagine what would happen with 1GBQuote:
Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant
Yeah, I showed graphics about Vista and games. Sounds like your new computer will work just fine. You may need to upgrade RAM in the future, but don't worry, RAM is fairly cheap.
Umm.. Macs have shipped standard with a two button mighty mouse for several years now. For non-technical users "better" is just a preference. The people that told you Macs were better were probably technical people or programmers that consider things like security, integration, developer APIs, and memory handling. Macs are "better" at all of those.
Those people that say PCs are better make me laugh because they are referring to the combination of Windows and the PC. Windows Vista runs better on Mac hardware than PC hardware :P (PC World, November)
Arby mentioned Aero, the glasslike window engine. Mac had the same thing in Panther (i think) and had hacks into it until Tiger and they never lagged at all, even on very little RAM. My PC, which couldn't run aero runs Compriz on Linux at full speed, which is far more advanced that anything aero does.
Right, how do I get XP? Someone tell me, please.Quote:
Originally Posted by arby
most OEM's offer XP instead of Vista
ask PC World
But you want Vista.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdeadevil
not with a gig of ram and a graphics card that has 256mb of onboard ram, leeching another 256mb of system ram if needed, he doesn'tQuote:
Originally Posted by Grod
btw,
I think this is the PC
can you confirm that?
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/pro...rmationSection
Yep
Why doesn't it show what monitor I have on there?
Oh, word. I didn't see that it was only a gig. I didn't think they let you go under two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ynot
Definitely get more than a gig of RAM if you get Vista. I'd say get at least 2 more gig sticks. Don't worry though, RAM is very cheap and very easy to install. You should also ask for a couple of RAM sticks off of ebay for Christmas.
no ideaQuote:
Originally Posted by Jdeadevil
the guts of the system are fine (rams a bit low, but hey)
the graphics card, however, is not so good
Nvidia Geforce 7500LE
The LE stands for "Light Edition"
and is not a gaming card
Apparently the 7500LE is a re-branded 7300GS with a bit more ram
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce...eForce_7500_LE
That makes the card 18 months - two years old
chances are you will only be able to play games on the lowest quality settings (obviously depends what you're going to be playing)
but, for £100-£150 you can get a better card
and for another £50 or so, you can double the system ram if need be
something to work towards, maybe
He only asked to stop bashing it 3 times.
I'm giving him optionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Grod
which is more than anyone else is doing in this thread
I've already said the hardware, by and large, is fine
the graphics card, however, has the potential to eat 1/4 of his ram
what he needs is a lightweight OS - otherwise he's going to run out of ram, and be paging in & out the whole time
what he does not need is windows vista
The rubbish thing is, I have no money left. My family arnt exactly the richest people in the world, me and my dad split the money on 500 quid, I got 250 of saving up my EMA which is a tenner a week. And two bonuses adding to 90 quid.
So I can't really go messing around with buying new hardware.
Plus, my dad doesn't know how to buy things off the internet. And I simply am not old enough.
see how it goes
the important thing is get XP on there in place of Vista
XP is 6 years old with a mature driver set
your hardware will be more than adequate for this
you will probably be able to run games quite well in XP with the graphics set on low
Then it's really up to you
Keep saving £10 a week, and in 2 months you can invest in a better graphics card
something like this
http://www.dabs.com/ProductView.aspx?Quicklinx=4KPG
Get Vista, but you need more RAM. It's quite cheap.
hmph i HATE it when computer stores don't tell you the brand or more information on the hardware. Say like what brand that RAM is and what is frequency thingy is ( well when it says like 667 or 800 or 1066). ALSO CAN ANYONE SEE IF THIS THING HAS PCI OR PCI-e slots? It says 2 PCI slots, any mention of PCI-e....nope.
Hey JD just wondering, what kind of games do you want to play?
Also i'm tempted to see how much that computer costs if you buy the pieces seperatly from say aria or overclockersUK, do you want to see?
Lol in the last two weeks i swear I've learnt so much about computer components. I'm buying a new one in the summer so i went on a tech forum to like ask questions. I learnt stuff!!:D
Ahh, thanks for asking. I actuually plan on playing stuff like Command And Conquer 3 and StepMania, I don't really go for stuff like Far Cry. Maybe Unreal tournament because it's cool, but not the really big stuff.
3 times a day!?!?! The guy's an hero...wait, we're talking about computers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grod
Bah, I can beat thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Siиdяed
you never been unemployed?
Yes, I am, now.
Wait, what?:?Quote:
Originally Posted by Siиdяed
I'm confused...
I dont know...
Get a vaio notebook with windows vista
oh yeah JD you should( no idea what one even is..), Jeff's dad brought one recently..... he is very happy with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff777
AHHH what is the motherboard!?!?! It doesn't tell you, it says it has 2 PCI slots, are they PCI-e or just PCI and and what speed 4x,8x or 16x!?!
Man i wanna know, JD when you are allowed to take it out the box, can you like look inside the case and just tell us what any stickers on the motherboard say, some kind of name of it or something.
Ahh sorry dude, got to wait untill Christmas Day. :lol:
And hey, at least it will run subliminal messaging properly. It just flashes on and off, I can't read it but I can see it!