Browser Wars

Firefox ftw! :P Even though it's quite good at eating some memory. As others I tried Chrome, and it is quite good, but obviously missing the customization of firefox, which I can't live without :D

I don't even understand why people would touch Internet explorer... even with a ten-foot pole. Unfortunately I have to when developing websites as it's kinda the mainstream browser in the industry for bigger companies .__.

Trying out the Acid3 test in IE is just embarrassing, I scored a 12 :P And actually Chrome did better than Firefox. Chrome scored a 100 while firefox landed on a 93.

I would change to Chrome if some sort of add-on support was added in the future. Don't know what kind of plans they have in that area.

Makes sense, Chrome uses Webkit. Webkit is the only engine out there that is Acid3 complete. Opera will score a 100, but the engine recognizes that it's being tested and fudges the results.

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Makes sense, Chrome uses Webkit. Webkit is the only engine out there that is Acid3 complete.

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ah, actually I didn't realize that Webkit was Acid3 complete. But awesome it is indeed ^^

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Opera will score a 100, but the engine recognizes that it's being tested and fudges the results

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Now that's just cheap :3

OMG FF has this great add-on called bb, it's for bbcode, you never have to click any buttons again you just type up what you want and then highlight right click, choose the bbcode and bam! AWESOME shizit

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Originally Posted by SomeDreamer

Now that's just cheap :3

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Actually, it's not uncommon practice. When gaming companies brag about how fast their engines are on certain tests, they usually have code in them that detect that they are being tested and turn certain things on or off specifically for the test.

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Originally Posted by ninja9578

Makes sense, Chrome uses Webkit. Webkit is the only engine out there that is Acid3 complete. Opera will score a 100, but the engine recognizes that it's being tested and fudges the results.

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No, Chrome uses a different javascript engine. Also, opera doesn't fudge the Acid3 results, they've just focused on getting it to work by implementing the functions it uses. But then so did Apple. At any rate, no browsers yet really pass the test, it's a criteria that it's to be rendered smoothly, and no browser does.

Webkit is not a JS engine, it's a rendering engine. Chrome uses Webkit.

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Originally Posted by ninja9578

Webkit is not a JS engine, it's a rendering engine. Chrome uses Webkit.

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That was my whole point. And Acid3 tests javascript almost exclusively.

No, it also tests CSS functionality.

Opera. I used IE8 for under a day and got sick of the lack of speed. My computer is buggier than the Amazon forest. Opera is small and slick, runs even better than Chrome for me.

Chrome uses a JS engine called V8 I believe. It was developed by some danish guy, and Chrome is the first big browser to use it.

Firefox 3x. Got my laptop a few months ago, and Firefox runs incredibly smoothly on it (vista is the OS). As I've stated before, I have tried other browsers, but none compare to Firefox. The infinite sea of addons and options is very nice, and I have yet to notice any "bulkiness" that some attribute to FF. I don't really care that it uses a tad bit more memory or that it's a bit slower on startup. It browses just as quickly as the other big players. The ad-blocker I have installed is also very nice. Plus, FF is cozy. :3

EDIT: Who's the poor, unlucky soul still using IE7? Person needs to dump that crapware and upgrade. Heck, a pencil and a piece of paper could do a better job than IE.

I don't understand why you do this in a poll. You can easily log this automagically.

Also, Chrome is available for Linux, and it's awesome!

hey ninja! thanks for the cute firefox pic =) btw...you remember back when netscape was the browser for cool kids?

Are you kidding? I remember when netscape was the only browser :D
http://images.appleinsider.com/leopa...w-safari-4.jpg

That brings me back to my 8 shades of grey days.

Holy electronic shit batman! That's antique bra!

I like how no one here likes IE. So this should be very fitting.

http://www.walyou.com/img/google-chr...ft-windows.jpg

lol

Awesome... :P

Well, I logged onto the tech forum in order to say that I'm trying out Opera for the first time. I haven't really decided if it works better than Chrome yet, but I like some of its features so far. I'm a little bit confused about the Opera Turbo. I had mine set to auto, and it turned it off with a notification saying that it's only useful on slow networks. I was under the impression it could be an improvement anyways, but oh well.

I do like how Opera loads XML or whatever its called piece by piece, but still allows normal functionality while it's doing that. For instance, it loaded the text box first so I was able to start typing smoothly while the rest of the page was loading.

Or maybe I just never noticed it on the other browsers :P

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Originally Posted by oniman7

I do like how Opera loads XML or whatever its called piece by piece, but still allows normal functionality while it's doing that. For instance, it loaded the text box first so I was able to start typing smoothly while the rest of the page was loading.

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Ynot, I'll take this one. Never say that to a technical user. If Opera is loading XML in pieces, then it's not a proper XML parser and is sure to falter somewhere. The XML specifications require that the entire thing get loaded and parsed before any work is done, if it doesn't do that, then it is not considered an XML parser. XML is one of those rare formats where both the format and the logic of the parser are defined by the specifications. SAX can be done in pieces, but SAX is less robust than XML.

Hense why I use JSON for all my stuff :P

Sorry, I'm not a real high-end techie. I've done some playing around in C, but I don't know a whole lot about the technical or coding end of the computer, although I did pick up some handy logic.

What I meant -- and failed -- to say is that the graphics on the webpage load one piece at a time, instead of loading the whole page at once. I'm not sure if it was done by design, or maybe just something with my computer, but it seems to be a more efficient process.
Maybe it's all the cookies I've got on Google Chrome, but that seems to load almost instantly, and Opera is noticeably slower. I do like that it seems to operate more smoothly, where Google Chrome tends to slow down now and then.

Oh, all browsers do that. Some of them just have things in cache so they load very quickly, some sites (like DV) come back compressed, so it has to be loaded all at once, (except for images of course.)

Chrome all the way. Light, standard-compliant (for html'ing), noob-friendly, nice looks.

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Originally Posted by oniman7

I'm a little bit confused about the Opera Turbo. I had mine set to auto, and it turned it off with a notification saying that it's only useful on slow networks.

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When you've got Opera Turbo activated, the pages will go through Opera's servers and get compressed before the page is sent to you. This leads to a noticeable speed up on dialup, or when you're browsing through your cell phone and other slow connections, but since it requires an extra step it won't help with a fast connection.

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Originally Posted by ninja9578

Hense why I use JSON for all my stuff :P

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JSON isn't all that supported yet, though, is it?

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Originally Posted by Kromoh

Chrome all the way. Light, standard-compliant (for html'ing), noob-friendly, nice looks.

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Opera is also very standard compliant, noob-firendly and nice looking. Though it's best suited for tabbed browsing.

edit: Also, the gradual load of pages are due to a slow connection. Opera outputs something as soon as it's got something to output, and the redraws the window continuously until all content is downloaded. Many other browsers wait till they have more to display. On my connection the pages appear nearly instantaneously.